Buffs

[Spikes]

[ranton]
Getting pretty sick and tired of seeing some idiot up in buffs and happen to get off the ground, you go to dive in only to have 36 50cals pointed in your direction with guns spraying and praying. Something needs to happen to this...it's getting old, seems like you can't even get close to buffs without getting smoked...especially when they are new guys flying them and they're just spraying and kill you. Isn't there some way to stop the laser guided bullets streaming from 36 different guns on 3 different planes?

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[Lusche]

 


btw, no buff formation in game  is able to point 36 50cals in your direction

[Motherland]

Buffs are pretty much free kills before they get altitude. They're only a challenge once they're at 25k cruising along at 300mph...

[Kazaa]

Buffs are free victories for me.

20mm's + dive + high speed + high 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9,10,11,12 pos = profit.

[Spikes]

btw, no buff formation in game  is able to point 36 50cals in your direction

Figure of speech, but at least 12+.

I dove on a set of 17s in my 262, going around 450IAS diving on their high 7 or so...lined up real quick, 1 ping...V-stab gone. Watched the film to see how many it took...yep just one. Deleted the film in disgust.

[Karnak]

Also remember, the guns do not converge on the target.  They converge at an unchangeable, set distance which makes the guns on the drones miss most of the time, unless the shooter missed by a mile with the guns on his bomber.

[Oleg]

Figure of speech, but at least 12+.

Oh yea... Figures of speech there and there and easy kill turns into dreadful killin machine  
btw, only way to attract 12+ guns is attacking from six.

[B4Buster]

36 .50s?! Damn most guns you can get on a plane (I belive) is 5 per plane x 3 = 15 guns, depending on what bomber you're in. Alot of firepower yes but you need to realize you can't mess with convergance on bombers.

Killing buffs takes patience. You can't just fly in straight 6 and expect to get 3 easy kills. You need to manage E and have a good angle. When I sight a formation of bombers, I make it priority to take out 1 plane on my first pass to cut down on the amount of rounds coming at me.

[Spikes]

36 .50s?! Damn most guns you can get on a plane (I belive) is 5 per plane x 3 = 15 guns, depending on what bomber you're in. Alot of firepower yes but you need to realize you can't mess with convergance on bombers.

Killing buffs takes patience. You can't just fly in straight 6 and expect to get 3 easy kills. You need to manage E and have a good angle. When I sight a formation of bombers, I make it priority to take out 1 plane on my first pass to cut down on the amount of rounds coming at me.

Indeed, I've got the same idea as you...one at a time. I can't really aim the 30mms, but it's a pretty lucky shot going 450IAS...especially with one ping. Yeah I feel like an idiot right now, I just had to type something up to vent out.

[Lusche]

36 .50s?! Damn most guns you can get on a plane (I belive) is 5 per plane x 3 = 15 guns, depending on what bomber you're in.

Max number is 7x3=21 in B-17 - if the fighter approaches exactly coalt from 5 or 7 o'clock: tail (2), top (2), ball (2), left or right (1)

[B4Buster]

yup you're right Snail. And I know SPikes buffs can be aggrivating. Yesterday I was buzzing around in a 262..I came in at a set of Lancs from 8 o' clock. as I flew away, (Doing 500 mph) the lanc pings me from 1K out, giving me a 1 shot pilot wound. How's that for bad luck? 

[CAVPFCDD]

It's annoying, but like someone else said straight 6 attack is a deathwish, so diving in is a good and effective tactic, also good to know each buffs weakness, ex lanc has no guns underneath or on the sides.

[AirFlyer]

Might sound dweebish, but one of the best tactics I found against bombers is to HO them. It minimizes the time your around them and you get easy PW kills. Seems to be extremely effective on Ju88s and Lancasters. Biggest problem with this is after the first pass it's difficult to set up an other pass at this angle. With any luck you have 1 - 2 of them dead already though.

[Motherland]

Might sound dweebish, but one of the best tactics I found against bombers is to HO them. It minimizes the time your around them and you get easy PW kills. Seems to be extremely effective on Ju88s and Lancasters. Biggest problem with this is after the first pass it's difficult to set up an other pass at this angle. With any luck you have 1 - 2 of them dead already though.

It's not dweebish, in fact that's the exact tactic that was used by the Luftwaffe in World War II for the reasons you mention. This is why the B17G we have in game has 4 .50's in the nose and only 2 in the tail.

[soupcan]

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There, fixed.