it freakin sucks

[ColSuave]

you best pick the germans, the japs were loons! they take no prisoners and will fight you to the death. i've heard stories from my grandparents during the philippine occupation where they'd toss a baby up and pierce it with a sword when it came down. one of my grampa's brothers also died fighting the japs as a guerilla while macarthur regrouped in australia. good thing my vet grampa survived the great war otherwise i wouldn't be here!

yep they were a brutal military force. just look what they did at manchuria before we came into the picture...

   The story of this WWII (1931-1945) theater of war is that Japan invaded Asian countries representing one-third of the human race. This Great Asian-Pacific Crescent of Pain consisted of many hundreds of millions of people from Japan to Korea, China/Manchuria throughout Southeast Asia, the Pacific, and Indian Ocean islands.3 The Japanese military physically subjugated over half this population. The destruction of cities, towns and villages was widespread. Many millions perished. The surviving casualties-whose lives were probably shortened due to their injuries and hardships-were in the many tens of millions. Those severely affected included wounded and maimed, raped and tortured, maltreated forced labor, massive numbers of destitute and despairing refugees and homeless, war orphans, and widows. Others affected by Japan's aggression included brutalized POWs and civilian internees, victims of severe war-caused malnutrition and painful diseases, addicts (from Japanese opium sales), and ill equipped and ill supported Chinese soldiers. Most of the casualties were comprised of noncombatant women, children, and men. The count of the dead and severely affected equaled the total population of the United States at the time. When relatives and communities traumatized by these casualties are added, the scale of the tragedy easily doubles. Few of the populations whose lands were invaded were unaffected.

[dedalos]

if ah had ta fight in uh war,it would be wwII.against da germans,but if ah had ta da japs o' course.an' muh ma &^@%$ post iz not ta offend anyone.an' if dey r,ah be sorry. and git Sheniquah's arss back ova' heeah.

Fixed

[Shuffler]

I'd say both Jap and German war machines were equally savage to combatants and non combatants. Murdered millions of innocent folks. War is not all glory, many die that are never known or found.

[SgtPappy]

Nor is anyone really innocent. There was crap happening on both sides; crap none of us are too proud of. I know that the Japanese Governing bodies have still not made an official apology to the 'comfort women' who were taken as sex slaves. I had one person on youtube try to deny this with proof from some Japanese Historical site. Yea ok. 

At any rate, the Allied side wasn't perfect either. Brits, Americans, Canadians and Russians all have their own overall reputations but that doesn't always account for each and every individual. There's always that one person who made a terrible mistake.

The vets (and those who suffered) really deserve appreciation because they were brave enough to simply endure it, regardless of nationality. And as for those who died, they really need respect. We look up to veterans but they look up to those souls up there who just couldn't make it.

[ColSuave]

Nor is anyone really innocent. There was crap happening on both sides; crap none of us are too proud of. I know that the Japanese Governing bodies have still not made an official apology to the 'comfort women' who were taken as sex slaves. I had one person on youtube try to deny this with proof from some Japanese Historical site. Yea ok. 

At any rate, the Allied side wasn't perfect either. Brits, Americans, Canadians and Russians all have their own overall reputations but that doesn't always account for each and every individual. There's always that one person who made a terrible mistake.

The vets (and those who suffered) really deserve appreciation because they were brave enough to simply endure it, regardless of nationality. And as for those who died, they really need respect. We look up to veterans but they look up to those souls up there who just couldn't make it.

right on

[BigPlay]

if i had to fight in a war,it would be wwII.against the germans,but if i had to the japs of course.and my post is not to offend anyone.and if they r,i am sorry.

Not me.... they were the best trained army in the world at that time and probally the best equipped. The worst thing about the PTO was it's location. The Jap's were really no match for the American soldier.

[Spikes]

We have our reputation too...

When you read books written by American authors etc, it seems they only tell about the bad the enemy did and the good we did. Every side did bad things...no matter what level...no side was perfect.

[MonsterZer0]

I find the term jap's inapporiate. You meant japanese. I must be new.

[aenigma]

I find the term jap's inapporiate. You meant japanese. I must be new.

He is talking in past tense as what the Japanese were known by. Considering this is a WW2 game and some of us tend to jump into that time period while playing or talking about WW2, Jap is fitting.

[lunatic1]

all to true
 

[BigPlay]

We have our reputation too...

When you read books written by American authors etc, it seems they only tell about the bad the enemy did and the good we did. Every side did bad things...no matter what level...no side was perfect.

Saw plenty of film footage of how Eisenhower starved German pow's . there was a huge pow camp right next to a supply depot that was bigger than the camp. The pow's didn't even have shealter, food or medical care. I believe this was very late in the war and Eisenhower  had just taken a tour through a former Jewish pow camp. He was pissed and wanted retribution.

I saw another film of 70-80 German SS pow's being marched along a road narrated by the guy who shot the film. What he said after the film had stopped was that very one of these prisoners was machine gunned down not 3 minutes later. Why..... because they had killed a medic.  So yes you are right, history is written by the victors.

[dedalos]

Saw plenty of film footage of how Eisenhower starved German pow's . there was a huge pow camp right next to a supply depot that was bigger than the camp. The pow's didn't even have shealter, food or medical care. I believe this was very late in the war and Eisenhower  had just taken a tour through a former Jewish pow camp. He was pissed and wanted retribution.

I saw another film of 70-80 German SS pow's being marched along a road narrated by the guy who shot the film. What he said after the film had stopped was that very one of these prisoners was machine gunned down not 3 minutes later. Why..... because they had killed a medic.  So yes you are right, history is written by the victors.

Ahem, they started it.  To me, if anyone attacks you, you do what you have to do.  Also, the level of "Bad" is different between the two sides.  Yeah, no one was perfect, but there is no comparison to what the allies did - after they were attacked - to what the Germans or Japs did.  Although, it is ok for the Germans because they were really just following orders so it does not count.  Lets all give a big <<S>> to them

[uptown]

if i had to fight in a war,it would be wwII.against the germans,but if i had to the japs of course.and my post is not to offend anyone.and if they r,i am sorry.

The is stupid on so many levels.

[BigPlay]

Ahem, they started it.  To me, if anyone attacks you, you do what you have to do.  Also, the level of "Bad" is different between the two sides.  Yeah, no one was perfect, but there is no comparison to what the allies did - after they were attacked - to what the Germans or Japs did.  Although, it is ok for the Germans because they were really just following orders so it does not count.  Lets all give a big <<S>> to them

The Germans attacked the US?????? Where? Hitler declared war on the US  after Pearl Harbor but there was no attack. Roosevelt wanted to get into ww2 and did everything to get into it in Europe. Now the Japanese brought it on all on their own. Also the Germans were brought up on war crimes while many Japanese villains got off the hook. I'm sure if the US lost the war there would be war crimes on many of the Allied leaders as well. So there was plenty of so called Geneva war crimes to go around. It may help that you crack a book before posting comments with no forknowledge.

[dedalos]

The Germans attacked the US?????? Where? Hitler declared war on the US  after Pearl Harbor but there was no attack. Roosevelt wanted to get into ww2 and did everything to get into it in Europe. Now the Japanese brought it on all on their own. Also the Germans were brought up on war crimes while many Japanese villains got off the hook. I'm sure if the US lost the war there would be war crimes on many of the Allied leaders as well. So there was plenty of so called Geneva war crimes to go around. It may help that you crack a book before posting comments with no forknowledge.

Read my post.  Where did I mention the letters U and S?    Before we talk about books lets focus on reading a simple post.  However, not only I have read said books, but I have family stories/experiences have seen the actual locations of where the German contributions to the human race took place, and have listened to stories of a few survivors.  As far as my grandma was concerned, you can take your book and, well, you can figure it out.  She did not need one to tell her what she had gone through.  As I said, no one was or is perfect.  But what the Germans and Japs did on a systematic basis, does not compare.  Go dust your uniform now 

I hope you don;t think that the allies is really only the US, lol