Perking N1K and F4U-1C? (And a Question for HITECH)

[Fatty]

 

The ones that don't want it perked are hte ones that fly them all the time and will have to learn how to fly a real model and learn to kill again.

That's not true.  Many of us that don't want them perked rarely if ever fly them, we simply don't like the witch hunt mentality.

[AG Sachsenberg]

Ah but the witch hunt was on for the D-9 until the numbers dropped.  I think if HTC would clearly state what is going on about these 2 planes it might calm the rioters.  So far the numbers are not dropping for these 2 birds, and they won't until something is done.  

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[This message has been edited by AG Sachsenberg (edited 05-01-2001).]

[Fatty]

Believe me, if I wanted to lobby for the D9 getting perked, a 1.5 k/d would make it quite easy.

About 4-5 months ago, 1.3 on the chog was presented as indisputable evidence it was out of hand and had to be perked.

Don't worry though, I don't want the A5 or D9 perked either.

[hazed-]

WINGNUT IS RIGHT!


think about it.I think the perk system would work if we used it how i 'thought' it was intended...to reduce overuse of certain superior or overused aircraft and an attempt to balance the planeset and encourage the use of the rarer type of aircraft and thus producing a more enjoyable experience.

If we dont use it to stop the f4c then i say screw using it on tempests etc.
Hell id rather see more tempests for a change, as it is, the tempest is perked and  it has allowed the f4c to keep its 'easy killer' status and so all newbies etc fly it.
we know why,you can spray in enemies general direction and if it hits youve got a kill.
I dont blame a newbie for doing this sort of thing but id rather those same newbies use many different types of 'easier to kill in' aircraft.

P.S. I want the perk system and i think it will work. F4c has 25% of the kills? TIME TO PERK  .you introduced the system please use it.Ive said it before,I beleive this would be in the interest of all flyers.Those that love the f4c can still fly it and pay perks for it.
I even hereby agree to pay perks to fly the dora even though in all honesty i dont think it deserves a perk charge.Just as long as you perk the damned f4uc and i see a little less of it.

i cant say fairer than that.

 

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Hazed
3./JG2

[Tac]

out of principle, I feel I should post something on a chog thread.

There.. I feel better  

[Jekyll]

 

Originally posted by Fatty:
Believe me, if I wanted to lobby for the D9 getting perked, a 1.5 k/d would make it quite easy.

About 4-5 months ago, 1.3 on the chog was presented as indisputable evidence it was out of hand and had to be perked.

Don't worry though, I don't want the A5 or D9 perked either.

Ya know fatty, you might try a bit of honesty when you post ... it doesn't hurt, really  

The complaints about the CHog have never been about its k/d ratio ... and have ALWAYS been about its total percentage of kills in the arena.

I have never believed that the CHog needs to be perked.  I would have preferred any option other than perking the CHog, such as removing its carrier availability.  

It's the combination of speed, maneuverability, enormous guns and CV capability which make it King of the Arena - not its flying characteristics.

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Jekyll
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
Aces High Training Corps

[Fatty]

Actually, they were.  There was a time around 1.04 or 1.03 where the F4U had a k/d of about 1.3, and the next highest was hovering around 1.0.  I think around the origin of the sfter terrain.  But now that I think about it, you're right, technically, it was so far pre-perk that it was calls to have it completely removed, not perked.

I think some will regret the door this opened because it may lead to their plane being perked.  Ideally I'd like to see something along Funked's idea of only the earliest planes being unperked, but I don't think we have a big enough planeset yet.

[Kieran]

I can take my personal stats and make them say anything I want them to; last tour I had a 15:1 k/d in the Spit V, does this warrant perking? In a larger sense the same can be said of the overall stats.

Frankly I don't know what sim some of you guys fly. The planes that scare me in the furballs are the Spits and the La7's- they are the ones that really have the ability to ruin your day in a hurry. Hawgs and Nikki's are easy to avoid if you have a little SA.

[Toad]

Jekyll,

How soon we forget eh?

Fatty is right. K/D was the whine for a long time.

Check this thread in tour 7; it's full of k/d stats and comparisons.
 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/004718.html

There's some folks that just can't play without complaining about something, isn't there?  

I'm already looking forward to the next "perk the _______" thread.  

[hazed-]

Why is this always allies vs Axis? F4Uc vs dora? PEOPLE the WAR IS OVER!
You hate the pilot of a niki because he likes jap planes? hate LW flyers because they of course MUST BE NAZIS if they like to fly LW planes?
Well take a look around you ......oooh german and japanese cars! ...theres your terrorists! anyone who drives em are nazis or japanese imperialists!
This is not a battle to get your enemies favourite plane perked.Its trying to encourage you to use some of the less used types like p51bs,p47s etc.
Anyone noticed how the P47 has seemed to have attracted some great flyers? This is the sort of thing i love! im seeing more p51s more p47s more la7s more 109s, whether this is because of perking f4uc or just the map we have now i dont know, this is for HTC to work out.All i know is ive seen less F4Ucs and ive had more varied fights.
WTG HTC  
fellow flyers drop this LW/USAAF hate crap please.Its juvenille and drives people from the BBs.


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Hazed
3./JG2

[Zigrat]

i think that old threat proved a good point

at that time, c hogs outnumbered d hogs in the arena by 10-1 which is really a bad thing imo

even before the perking of the f4u-1c i saw many more d hogs to the point where relative use of the d hog had increased many fold.

the perk system IS doing something, and something good imo.

[Terror]

Why was the F4u-1C perked and not the N1K2?  Seems it would only be fair to perk both...

PS.  Are there any other differences between the 1C Hog and the 1D besides the armament (Cannon vs MG)?

Terror

[Karnak]

Terror,
The F4U-1C was perked while the N1K2 was not because the F4U-1C had twice as many kills.

The F4U-1D can carry 4 more rockets than can the 1C, otherwise they're identical (you noted the gun difference).

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