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Offline BigPlay

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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2008, 04:56:55 PM »
The CHAR would be a welcome addition.   

hence the name Char, short for charbroiled. Soon to be at a Burger King near you. Much past 1940 the tank was totally outclassed. It had a one man turret, probally it's biggest short coming. I think a M-8 would tear this thing to pieces.

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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2008, 06:42:09 PM »
The CHAR would be a welcome addition.   

Yep, in a EW GV set it would be a nice addition, along with the EW German tanks I listed.


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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2008, 09:47:31 PM »
NO :cryrip it never had a chance

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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2008, 10:01:09 PM »
Well, I don't see the point. Those French tanks were just 5 mile per hour widow makers. A jeep could probobly do some serious damage to the tracks.

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« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2008, 12:33:52 PM »
Well, I don't see the point. Those French tanks were just 5 mile per hour widow makers. A jeep could probobly do some serious damage to the tracks.

Those 'French tanks' were equal or better than the Germans tanks that were used in the Battle of France.


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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2008, 01:55:40 PM »
Guys, ya need to do a little research... French tanks were
(overall) superior in design to their german counterparts in 1940...

French tanks had up to Heavy 1 piece cast hull and turret armor..
German tanks had riveted or welded armor about 30mm thick..

French had Hi velocity 37, 47, and 75mm guns, Germans had 37mm
doorknocker or low velocity 75mm howitzer, (with no HEAT or HESH rds yet)..

Tank for tank, the French had a major advantage.. In numbers as well..

Unfortunately, the French also had generals who belonged in resthomes..
Or, were criminally senile... Or who were Facists sympathisers anyway, (Vichy)...

Therein lies the defeat of France.. (a cryin shame)
NOT because their tanks were inferior to the germans...
OR, because their troops didn't want to fight..

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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2008, 03:48:27 PM »
Those 'French tanks' were equal or better than the Germans tanks that were used in the Battle of France.


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actually in 1940 the Germans didn't have anything that could knock out the char B. I believe that was when Rommel first used 88 flackers against armor. If I remember correctly his position  was about to be over run by French tanks when he directed the flack guns against the oncoming tanks.

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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2008, 04:51:45 PM »
king tiger 102 mm thick armor

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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2008, 05:02:56 PM »
king tiger 102 mm thick armor

German tanks of 1940, not late war German tanks.

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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2008, 06:56:06 PM »
actually in 1940 the Germans didn't have anything that could knock out the char B.
IIRC the Char B1 had a soft spot on one of its sides (left?) in the form of an engine grill that was easily penetrated by AP, including the 37mm (but I admit that is being rather "technical").

I don't know if I would call the French tanks superior in "design" due to the one man turret configuration they used, but they were generally superior in armor protection, firepower, and overall numbers.  But they were certainly not used to their abilities -- which is to say tactical rather than technical failings were more to blame for their ineffectiveness in stopping the Germans.
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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2008, 07:11:22 PM »
there are acounts of the 37 only makeing the tanks ring and then they would deflect out normaly with no see able damage it basicly if they had to they went to the american tactick of swarming around the tanks because the french only deployed them to suport infantry
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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2008, 08:19:13 PM »
No doubt about it, everyone would agree. The idea is great, but the fact that we don't have french aircraft, or any type of french vehicle; makes it completely pointless to make one french tank which will lead to a whole discussion (fight), in the wishlist about wanting unneeded french aircraft. Or any other french vehicle for the matter.

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« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2008, 08:22:27 PM »
French aircraft are just as needed (perhaps even more so) than French tanks.
A D520 or an MS406 would be nice :aok

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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #58 on: December 17, 2008, 09:17:33 PM »
Fench Aircraft Bail As Resistance Members Armed With Butterfly Knifes Ready To Slash Some Tires! Viva le France! :rock

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Re: French Vehicles, please
« Reply #59 on: December 17, 2008, 09:25:56 PM »
French aircraft are just as needed (perhaps even more so) than French tanks.
A D520 or an MS406 would be nice :aok

If the aim is to flesh out the planeset for the EW arena, then you will also need to address the fact that there is a lack of EW vehicles for the EW arena.

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