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Offline yanksfan

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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2008, 09:57:34 PM »
A 20mm pony called the MarkIA was produced in late 41' but only 93 were ever made. So I guess I'll never see one of them in the game  :frown:

I'd love to have a pony like that, know of any pic's or a site with more info on it?
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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2008, 12:56:03 AM »
Im glad you ask I think this will answer the question.
I've had this argument before. In support of the loadout on the 109f4
Some might say only structural improvements... hog wash!

For in game purposes

51B/C varients

NA-102, NA-103, NA-104-
P-51B-1NA
P-51B-7NA/P-51C-3NT 
P-51B-10NA
p-51B-F-6C-NA or NT

"The -5 block added the alternate air source on each side of the cowling with filtered air and provisions for cold weather operations. A new Merlin -7 model was incorporated into the production line at the end of the P-51B-10NA block. Horsepower was boosted again, up another 50 to 1,450 at take-off. 91 model F-6C-NA or NT were created from -10 block of P-51Bs and the -10 block of P-51Cs. They had cameras mounted in the rear fuselage near the star and bars. "

51D/K varients
P-51D-5NA
P-51D-10NA
P-51D-15NA
P-51D-20NA
P-51D-25NA
P-51D-30NA

"The dorsal fin was added during the P-51D-10NA and later versions at the factory. Many other P-51s received this mod in the field. Look on this page, there is a wartime pic of a -5 model with the dorsal fin. Metal elevators were added in February 1945. The P-51D continued to have a fabric rudder. The -25 blocks and later were fitted with attachment points for various forms of rockets and rocket launchers.

One of the most important improvements to the P-51 was not structural. The K-14 gun sight was introduced in October of 1944 to the -20NA and later blocks. This new gun sight helped the pilots score more hits especially in higher deflection angle attacks. The K-14 utilized an analog computer. The pilot had to dial in the wingspan of the enemy aircraft and the range. Then all he had to do (sounds easy) was to put the enemy aircraft in the gun sight and pull the trigger. "
http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/p51variants/P-51D.shtml

We have 1 51D that does it all... where the 47 variety is at least done right. If the 51's can have improvements made from the field {Field mods} why cant the 109F-4 one of the most important 109's Fritz/Franz or Frederic?

Perk it! Fine by me! but it should be availible. hell the 109e carry's a bomb/dt.



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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2008, 01:16:48 AM »
What is the difference between the British Malcom hood and the bubble canopy?

I was told at one time (don't recall who told me) that the B model was slightly faster then the D due to the bubble on the D model.
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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2008, 01:48:12 AM »
A36 and P51A/B/C could 1000 lbs and D on up 2000 lbs.

Also the A36 had six .50 cals and the P51A had only four .50 cals.

You also forgot the P51 which had four 20mm.

 I mentioned the MarkIA (20mm pony) . The paper I have says the a,b,&c ponys carried 1000 of BOMBS. I was counting the extra weight for rockets although printout doesn't mention rockets in any of the 51s. :salute
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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2008, 02:04:11 AM »
What is the difference between the British Malcom hood and the bubble canopy?

I was told at one time (don't recall who told me) that the B model was slightly faster then the D due to the bubble on the D model.
In AH the P-51B has a Malcom hood and the P-51D has a bubble canopy.
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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2008, 07:33:34 AM »
P51/F6A,A36,P51A,P51B/C,P51B,P51C,P51D(2types),P51K,and P51H.

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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2008, 07:35:58 AM »
Why does the 51 carry a "P" designation rather then an "F" and whats the difference?


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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2008, 09:40:48 AM »
I'd love to have a pony like that, know of any pic's or a site with more info on it?

Although the image here carries the wrong designation this is in fact a P51 (not a P51A).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:P-51A.jpg

If someone has edit rights there could you fix this?
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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2008, 02:28:54 PM »
I know that the P51A was the Allison engined version. As far as I know it was fairly unpopular.
I think that the C was more or less similar to the B, but I may be wrong there.
The P51A was actually incredibly popular with the RAF.  The A model was excellent at low alt (very fast on the deck) and was used as attack planes a lot.

The dorsal fin on the P-51D wasn't a field mod for the majority of the D models, many yes, but most came off the assembly line with them.  They quickly learned of the instability caused by the bubble canopy and that fin was the fix for it.
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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2008, 02:36:11 PM »
you forgot the CA-17s made in australia and the cavalier mustangs which were P51Ds remanufactured in the 1960s with some significant changes to the airframes and the USAF purchased a few of them.

http://www.mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/p51variants/Cavalier.shtml

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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2008, 03:53:54 PM »
The P51A was actually incredibly popular with the RAF.  The A model was excellent at low alt (very fast on the deck) and was used as attack planes a lot.

The dorsal fin on the P-51D wasn't a field mod for the majority of the D models, many yes, but most came off the assembly line with them.  They quickly learned of the instability caused by the bubble canopy and that fin was the fix for it.

There was never a field mod for a dorsal fin. Some aircraft were produced without them but also never did have them.
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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2008, 03:57:59 PM »
Was the D model the only one to have the dorsal fin? And if I understand above statement correctly, dorsal fin models were not used in combat?
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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2008, 04:16:16 PM »


here is an H with the fin fillet




this is a K in dallas with the fin fillet



here is a P51D without the fin fillet

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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2008, 04:32:13 PM »
...It does have a fin... look again... ;)

EDIT:
Here is one without:
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Re: How many P51 varients were produced other then B and D
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2008, 04:44:43 PM »
In the case of the D models, 1 had it and one didn't. So 2 types of D models. :salute
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