how do you make the corsair float?

[Wingnutt]

twice today I dive on a corsair, had it follow me up, 800 behind me it stalled.. but didn't flip all the way over.. but instead sat level .. perfectly still, untill I too had stalled, and fallen all the way back down past it, where upoit finally fell forward  and was on my 6..  first time I was in a spitty, the 2nd in a 38, in the 2nd time the corsair was on the deck and I was about 2k, I dove hitting 400 and pulled up after the merge vertical, the corsair followed and quickly fell back and as stalled he was 800 back and not closing.. he fell till he was level... then just seemed to sit there.. perfectly still.. till I flipped over then fell past him, where in he was on my 6 and closing..

how on earth do you this??  can it be done in other rides equally well, its it about flaps? trim?  the plane wasnt hanging on the prop, but instead sitting level.

I recorded it the second time to study it, but wait no I didnt.. because if you hit ENTER after recording a film, it cancels it 

[Anaxogoras]

I posted about this before and it's been discussed many times, or so I hear.  It's all about dumping flaps, and even someone who's a F4U noob like me can do it.  Because it was a carrier plane, the F4U was required to have a very low stall speed with flaps deployed; much slower than a Spitfire.  Sometimes the most difficult thing about fighting a F4U is how slowly they're able to fly!

[Saxman]

As Anax says, the F4U has a VERY low stall speed with full flaps. He may not have even stalled out but was so slow it may have just looked that way. The rudder reversal at the top is also not unusual, as she has a very large, and very responsive rudder

Additionally, the Corsair is very deceptive about her E-state so she may not have been as slow as you thought.

[Wingnutt]

Yea, Ive read a few times where people flip out about this, to the point of accusations of cheating even.  before today I had never encountered this situation, so I was kinda  about it too...

stupid blue planes 

[Angus]

How slow was the stall speed?
Spitfire goes about 65 mph AFAIK.

[Anaxogoras]

How slow was the stall speed?
Spitfire goes about 65 mph AFAIK.

It certainly doesn't go that slow in the game, does it?

[Spikes]

I'd venture to say when it's about to stall, the pilot slowly drops flaps to keep it steady. Sometimes this doesn't work, sometimes it does. Depends on the F4U's amount of E.

[Race]

Depends on your definition of a stall I guess...

I have been around 50 knots in controlled rolling scissors at the upper reversal point in a P-51B. Had a Spit 9 in controlled level flight at 80 knots with more than 50% fuel. Never tried any of that with an F4U tho. In general I wouldnt say you could get to 65 in level flight however controlled flight is another matter.

Race

[Shuckins]

This doesn't sound right.  Don't know about in-game flight characteristics, cause I haven't flown in a while, but in real life, if a pilot were following a con with near equal or superior energy into the vertical, popping his flaps was NOT something he would want to do.

Deploying the flaps would not only rob him of his energy, but also blank the ailerons, robbing them of control authority.  I don't care how "stable" the Corsair's flaps made it in level flight, vertical control would be another matter altogether.  When stall speed was reached he would either go into a tail slide, with no control authority whatsoever, or he would fall off on one wing, nose down and helpless.

In all probability, your opponent had more energy than you realized and bled you dry of your own.  So, you stalled first, and he latched onto your tail.

[Anaxogoras]

nm

[MaSonZ]

This doesn't sound right.  Don't know about in-game flight characteristics, cause I haven't flown in a while, but in real life, if a pilot were following a con with near equal or superior energy into the vertical, popping his flaps was NOT something he would want to do.

Deploying the flaps would not only rob him of his energy, but also blank the ailerons, robbing them of control authority.  I don't care how "stable" the Corsair's flaps made it in level flight, vertical control would be another matter altogether.  When stall speed was reached he would either go into a tail slide, with no control authority whatsoever, or he would fall off on one wing, nose down and helpless.

In all probability, your opponent had more energy than you realized and bled you dry of your own.  So, you stalled first, and he latched onto your tail.

belive it was Saxman who just recently posted in a different thread that Vought made the Corsair so that with full flaps its stall speed was lower than with no flaps. I may have read Sax wrong, but if i read it right, and its true, this is a believible scenario wingnutt is posting. Ive been down to 80mph in a f4u1a with full flaps, and stalled just before the person tryin to rope me, hung in for a quick snapshot though.

[Treize69]

To make a Corsair Float-

Take one Corsair
Put in glass
Pour in Root Beer
Enjoy.

[Spikes]

This doesn't sound right.  Don't know about in-game flight characteristics, cause I haven't flown in a while, but in real life, if a pilot were following a con with near equal or superior energy into the vertical, popping his flaps was NOT something he would want to do.

Deploying the flaps would not only rob him of his energy, but also blank the ailerons, robbing them of control authority.  I don't care how "stable" the Corsair's flaps made it in level flight, vertical control would be another matter altogether.  When stall speed was reached he would either go into a tail slide, with no control authority whatsoever, or he would fall off on one wing, nose down and helpless.

In all probability, your opponent had more energy than you realized and bled you dry of your own.  So, you stalled first, and he latched onto your tail.

Well, like I said...keeping all your E till you're about to stall, then right before, kick down a notch of flaps and it somehow gives you an extra couple seconds of hang time.

To make a Corsair Float-

Take one Corsair
Put in glass
Pour in Root Beer
Enjoy.

[Wingnutt]

This doesn't sound right.  Don't know about in-game flight characteristics, cause I haven't flown in a while, but in real life, if a pilot were following a con with near equal or superior energy into the vertical, popping his flaps was NOT something he would want to do.

Deploying the flaps would not only rob him of his energy, but also blank the ailerons, robbing them of control authority.  I don't care how "stable" the Corsair's flaps made it in level flight, vertical control would be another matter altogether.  When stall speed was reached he would either go into a tail slide, with no control authority whatsoever, or he would fall off on one wing, nose down and helpless.

In all probability, your opponent had more energy than you realized and bled you dry of your own.  So, you stalled first, and he latched onto your tail.

I accelerated from  D400 to D800 from the corsair WHILE vertical.. I.E. I was going straight up, as was he directly behind/under me... 400 when we started, 800 when I stalled, at which point (when I was stalling) he was not gaining, but insted just sitting (literally) in mid air, I fell...  600, 400, 200 then down past him, only then did he began to fall, nose down on my 6.

[BnZs]

It helps if you stuff every available nook and cranny inside the wings and fuselage with helium-filled ping pong balls.