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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2008, 02:47:32 PM »
In a big box, there are still common aircraft that could survive in the MA........
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2008, 06:48:44 PM »
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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2008, 01:10:59 PM »
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@ lusche  thx for the report and the technical data conclusion. answers me some questions i have asked me my for a wile

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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2008, 02:46:04 AM »
4 engined 234 wouldn't be faster. The reason there are 4 is they were having production problems with the bigger ones, so they added 2x as many weaker engines. End result is probably more drag, more malfunction problems, and NOT the 2x speed you're probably thinking you would get.

End result: Just pretend you have 4 if you like, it's flying about the same anyways.

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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2008, 03:32:46 AM »
4 engined 234 wouldn't be faster. The reason there are 4 is they were having production problems with the bigger ones, so they added 2x as many weaker engines. End result is probably more drag, more malfunction problems, and NOT the 2x speed you're probably thinking you would get.

End result: Just pretend you have 4 if you like, it's flying about the same anyways.

Um. Of course you could read the technical specs ight in the *previous page* instead just making random guesses.

Ar 234C with 4 engines was much faster than 234B. 20% higher cruising and top speeds, longer range.

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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2008, 04:26:54 AM »
4 engined 234 wouldn't be faster. The reason there are 4 is they were having production problems with the bigger ones, so they added 2x as many weaker engines. End result is probably more drag, more malfunction problems, and NOT the 2x speed you're probably thinking you would get.

End result: Just pretend you have 4 if you like, it's flying about the same anyways.

2 x Jumo 004 > 1800lb thrust
4 x BMW 003 > 3200lb thrust

What ever you say Krusty. :rolleyes:

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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2008, 03:06:45 PM »
I'm saying the end result is the same.

In-game, it's already uncatchable. Giving it 20% extra isn't going to change that.

It's very easy to just pretend. You've still got a bomber that's uninterceptable 99.999999% of the time in AH2.

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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2008, 04:20:31 PM »
they are interceptible especialy if they come in at 6-7 k if there are already bombers around you are up there normaly and that how i intercept min i wait untill they are done bombing and then cut the corner on there turn and shoot them down
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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2008, 06:00:09 PM »
A laden Ar234 doesn't even break 400mph last time I tested it.
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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2008, 06:21:34 PM »
I recall being caught by a La-7 on a long leg. I was still faster (the La had alt) and managed to slowly extend. But that was SLOWLY.
An Arado with 4 engines whose performance is showed above in this thread would definately be a naughty thing in AHII.
However, there are many other possibilities in the waiting line in the same category. Should one dare utter a name?
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2008, 08:01:14 PM »
A laden Ar234 doesn't even break 400mph last time I tested it.

thats one reason i sometimes take 3 buffs but only 1 bomb so i have less drag and can fly faster.... still can take out a VH like that.
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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #41 on: December 24, 2008, 05:24:07 AM »
Wasnt the 4 BMW engine set up being considered as an alternative for the 234 because what available Jumo engines they had were going to the 262?I was led to believe it was a production/availability issue not a performance issue.


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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2008, 07:15:50 AM »
There was something like 8000 Jumo 004s produced. There was around 1400 Me252s produced.

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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2008, 08:35:15 AM »
also the bmw engine was easyer to produce than the junkers
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Re: 4 engines in AR-234
« Reply #44 on: December 24, 2008, 09:19:13 AM »
There was something like 8000 Jumo 004s produced. There was around 1400 Me252s produced.

Just to continue the conversation a bit.Those 1400 262's would have needed 2800 engines.From what I recall those engines wore out fast.If this is all true is it possable that they were going through theyre stock of engines?I cant recall where I heard or read about the BMW being a replacement because of Jumo engines going to the 262.I also heard or read somewhere that they had plenty of 262 air frames but there was a lack of engines for them.I may have heard some of this over the years on the history channel.We know that can be questionable.I have never read much about the jets so this stuff is a bit interesting to me.

P.S. I see one book recomended up there on the 234.Are there any others that come recomended?

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