The meaning of <S>.....?

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[Masherbrum]

Salutes are waaaaay over used....'specially by newbies. Heck, seen guys salute me while whining about me thumping them (like that somehow makes the insult more palatable ). It's a sign of respect and/or recognition for accomplishing something special.....well....it used to be anyway. 

    

[FLOTSOM]

Flotsom, what do you do for a living?  I hope it's something creative that makes use of your writing talent.  That was a pleasure.

Thanx Anaxogoras, i was hoping some would find the funny in it. <S>

unfortunately my skill and whit with the written word is intermitten and twisted at best. i wish i could rely on it to make a living, but that is just not the way of the world. so i will stick with towing.

FLOTSOM

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I give out <S> to those that deserve it, allthough if I get a <S> from someone who was in the Gang, I will return the <S>,
to me, it is a sign of respect, what I think is funny are the ones who wont <S> because of a particular plane you are flying,
 does not matter how you fly it but that you fly that particular plane, for instance I got nto a great fight with a 109(I think K), it was a good fght, no HOs, and the 109 did not run, I was in my Hurri, after the fight, I <S>ed him for a great fight even though I was in the better turning plane he fought hard and made me work for my kill, I thought he deserved a <S>,well I got no <S> back, I asked him how come? He replies,  I dont <S> Hurri drivers!  , to me thats just pathatic, but its all good thats just one more name I will never <S> again. 

[Larry]

You took the words outta my mouth. Now give 'em back to me 

NO, they're mine!

[TequilaChaser]

Seriously, I understand humble's side , of being

Way back when I started playing with the big boys a <S> meant everything. Getting a recognition from the top sticks was an important measuring stick. It was also a way of nurturing "the code" and if you gave out a <S> improperly you didnt get silence or a lame uncalled for <S> with someone biting there tongue...you got a dressing down on text and you got your butt ganged for a week if needed.

and I second NB's thoughts.or the fact of what it used to mean if a <S>, SALUTE, ~S~ was given out.........

us "old rawhides" can easily pick up on how others are feeling, pick up on their mind set, and current feelings by the way they respond to humble's 1st post.......I did not see humble posting a "whine" or "I am completely upset because the way a guy <S> me, after the fact!"

I see humble posting a topic to get a general consensus of the current state of the game and how people view the topic in their own mindset....

I always find it humorous , as even humble noted of Oopsy/Shane with his old ways verses his new ways since he changed to Shane from Oopsy and started flying Az from Cz nearer the end of AW and as Shane fulltime in Aces High........

I guess that is where SkyRock got his nurturing    (<--pun intended ribbin )

just another sign of the changing of ways as time grows on us all......

[uptown]

Try this: next time a noob starts firing at you from 2k out, toy with him awhile before you kill him. Throw him a big <SALUTE> 243745223 tell him that he almost got ya, and he'll keep coming back for more. Let the score padding begin 

[humble]

1st and foremost I genuinely appreciate the various comments. The candor and logic of various points of view is well represented....

To clarify I was not upset or angry, either at the time of the fight, when I started this thread or now. I think if anything I had a sense of loss at the time. This was a wonderful fight vs a skilled opponent. If I had been in a plane with better pop or vs someone who'd shown me a bit less I'd have switched to the yak and then continued vs the Ki...the simple reality is that the Ki pressed me hard and showed that if I gave him any advantage in switching to the yak he'd easily defeat me (them there Ki-61's are beasties in good hands). As I stated I gave him a well earned <S> on extending as well as my reason why, now its very possible he doesn't tune 200....

This thread was not meant as a whine, complaint or expression of anger....simply a query. Here is the clip on the 1st part of the engagement...
http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/meandMrKi.ahf

Was a wonderful fight....

[Anaxogoras]

Isn't it true that a .s xxxx will be seen if he doesn't have 200 tuned?  A lot of the time, though, you see <S> typed out manually.

[bongaroo]

Makes me laugh when the pilot who finally shoots you down in a gangbang and salutes you wants a salute back.  Even better when they get angry for not getting the salute back.   

Fun fight win or lose I'm going to try and salute or say something nice on 200 about it.

As others have said, gangbangs, HOs, vulches, etc... they don't earn any respect in my book and a <S> is about respect.

[Shane]

Isn't it true that a .s xxxx will be seen if he doesn't have 200 tuned?  A lot of the time, though, you see <S> typed out manually.

I always squelch 6 and 1...

TC:  yeah, I used 2 accts near the end of AW3 as I didn't like the 1 day time limit to change sides, and Az were lower nbrs then, so that's where I ended up... also started my 109k and la5 phase about then, after being a long time f6/p38 driver in both RR and FR.  The adjustment to AH FM and the ensuing HO's took some time to acclimatize to, about a year while learning various rides. I'd say "Shane" as we know him has always been an underlying part of my air combat persona, but wasn't til established new rivalaries in AH that "he" came into the
Shane we all know and love.  

I do have a reason for being that way... and it ties into my willingness to help people get better.  They have to put aside both their own ego and get beyond mine to "qualify" for help from me.  Once they do, this is where you see the more or less positive comments about Shane (on the BBS) being so helpful... you'll also notice my BBS and in-game persona are quite different.

I've been around this type of game since '98 - there's nothing new about the way "players" play - deadduck sums it up nicely when he stated, "Players are rats."  

I don't care what or how someone flys with 2 exceptions.  As long as an honest effort is made, and needless senseless gangs that are not relevant to any base capture (off to the side, MA or FurBlake).  I mean if you see a 1 v 1 or 1 v 2 in progress, who benefits from fun/experience, when it's made a 1 V 3,4,5,6?  I'm very consistent in what I call out over ch200 - people who are afraid to try, and people who are consistent gangers.

anyway, I've pretty much stated my views on the whole in-game faux-salute thingy. The most likely place I'd toss out a <S> is in the DA after dueling with someone for a while.  

I reserve my forum <S> for the passing of vets mostly, and those serving(ed) because I do respect that, very much so.

[bongaroo]

They have to put aside both their own ego and get beyond mine to "qualify" for help from me.  Once they do...

   Put aside thier ego and get over yours?  Some ego you have.

[pluck]

S is used alot, it is a bit watered down.  Sometimes you get one, and not really sure why.  Generally if I get one after fighting a group, trying not to be rude, I'll say "<S> guys."  The only reason is not to be some kind of snob, but I'm not going to <S> an individual if in fact it was a group that led to my demise.  I don't like to take credit away from anyone:).  As for sending unsolicited <S>'s...rare and only after a great fight.

[bongaroo]

I don't like to take credit away from anyone . 

Kind and optimistic way of looking at it I guess. 

[gpwurzel]

Personally, I probably overuse salutes - then again, I'm normally on the dying end of most engagements.

I dont much care if I get ho'd, vulched, ganged or whatever - I get myself into those situations by my own choice etc.


Nothing further to add, I'm at work, 12 hour shifts and bored already (only 11 hours to go ho hum)

See ya up in the bright blue virtual,


  (I know, but I just had to)


Wurzel