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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2008, 03:27:55 PM »
Yes I know a lot of military but I was thinking of the current climate domestically (staying vague).

Iran has always had issues with not accurately knowing where their airspace and waterway borders are.  And always these discrepancies are in Iran's favor.  They intimidate if you question otherwise, so the best responce is usually your own intimidation or a stiff lip.

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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2008, 05:35:10 PM »
OMG ... you do believe that actually took place  :huh
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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2008, 06:21:25 PM »
OMG ... you do believe that actually took place  :huh

Reminds me of the story of the CHP officer supposedly that was "locked on" by a Marine F/A-18 (flown by Adonai?) near Mirimar that made the rounds a year or so ago.


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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2008, 03:19:34 AM »
You mean the British Bobbys lidar locked on by the Tornado Gr4....or the Australian highway patrolmans lidar locked on by the RAAF F/A-18...the cop and the Harrier, the cop and the F-15, the lighthouse and the carrier etc etc etc

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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2008, 05:03:21 AM »
Sounds completely made up story.

Don't underestimate some of the arab middle eastern pilots. The Israeli pilots considered the Jordanians to be very good, though they are somewhat of an exception for using western equipment and have roots in the RAF. True, last fight with them was in 1967, but they seem to keep a small and well trained force.
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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2008, 07:58:23 AM »
Ever known a Marine?

Why yes Sir I have....I can tell you this from personal experience.  When you're riding in a C&C vehicle and the radio guy chimes in and says, "Sir, I have the F-18's or Cobra's on the hook that are our cover" you get a nice warm and fuzzy feeling inside.

Is the story made up?  Possibly, most likely, but I can still see some of those guys saying that.  My last unit was in the 2nd MAW in Iraq and one my Lt. had a few friends that were fighter jocks, those guys are a trip.
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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2008, 11:51:53 AM »
OMG ... you do believe that actually took place  :huh

It does not matter what he, or everybody else believes, in internet it will live forever.
Maybe it'll be found in snopes.com, like this:
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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2008, 01:01:51 PM »
It would not suprise me if this was real.  I have been on several deployments transiting the straights where the Iranians regularly "lock on" to vessels with their Silk Worm sites as well as other types of surface targeting missile batteries.  They like to intimidate anyone that transits, its just a matter of time till someone calls their bluff.....  :lol


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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2008, 07:28:56 PM »
Carrier VS. Lighthouse as previously mentioned... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtDj8taaaFk
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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2008, 08:27:02 AM »
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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2008, 10:47:29 AM »
Iran has a much more capable Air Defense network compared to the fighters/intercept aircraft they operate. 
Although this sounds like a "cool" scenario (almost TopGun like), I would imagine this is completely untrue..
Iran knows exactly where it's borders are..  However, as known throughout history, Persians have always considered the first several miles
of surrounding countries as sort of a buffer zone.  They like to call this their airspace or their waters.  I'm sure if an unknown aircraft
goes beyond this point, surface to air missiles are readied, not aircraft..  They have absolutely nothing that can touch a moderately
advanced air force.  Aside from all the propaganda they release, their equipment is substandard for the most part..  Especially their air force..

A more likely scenario would be a pilot straying close to this buffer zone, and then being warned to back-off before they attempt a lock-on with
their surface to air missiles.. 



 
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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2008, 01:16:52 PM »
Sounds completely made up story.

Don't underestimate some of the arab middle eastern pilots. The Israeli pilots considered the Jordanians to be very good, though they are somewhat of an exception for using western equipment and have roots in the RAF. True, last fight with them was in 1967, but they seem to keep a small and well trained force.

Correct me If Im wrong but the entire Jordainian force of 24 Hawker/Hunters were wiped out on the ground on 5 June '67. Heres the final count for the 6 day war.
 
Country Number
Egypt  338 
Syria 61
Jordan 29 
Iraq 23
Lebanon 1
Approx Total Arab 452
Israel 36

But lets not "underestimate" the A-rabs by any means. :lol 

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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2008, 01:25:14 PM »
nov 79 what was goin on in nov 79

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Re: Alleged conversation with Iranian Air Defense controllers
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2008, 01:29:37 PM »
nov 79 what was goin on in nov 79

Try opening up one of those things with binders on, that have pages in between, and say "History" on the cover. If you cant do that then just use google.
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