Music Industry to End Mass Lawsuits Against File-Sharers

[JAGED]

Well it's about time.  I'm sure there are those of you on both sides of this fence.  What do you think about this?

Critics say the legal offensive ultimately did little to stem the tide of illegally downloaded music. And it created a public-relations disaster for the industry, whose lawsuits targeted, among others, several single mothers, a dead person and a 13-year-old girl.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,470039,00.html

[RedDg]

Thanks, Captain Obvious.

Not you Jaged 

[JAGED]

Is it bad to download a missed TV show episode? How is this any different from TIVO?

[Nilsen]

Ive been with and against the music industry for years. Ive been flip flopping on this difficult issue.

I guess the world may have to prepare for a reality where artists make their big bucks on public broadcasting and concerts. Any other form of distribution except for those of us that will buy the cd will have to be seen as nothing more than PR for the artitst and they will have to make the best of it.

For me my solution is just gonna have to be the way to go.

[Fulmar]

Is it bad to download a missed TV show episode? How is this any different from TIVO?

Well with a downloaded one, you could potentially move that copy to other computer or share it with other users.  Also you could put it on other media such as DVD, IPod, etc.  This is a big no no.

Now they said they're were going to instead work with ISPs to help stop the pirating.  Who know what invasive stuff they'll try and get them to do.

[Kuhn]

One side of me says it is stealing. The other side thinks the rich are worrying about not being as rich.
They see how much they are loosing not how much they already have. It makes me wonder if these kind of websites would ruin the music industry or would it just not be as fruitful.

[JAGED]

Well with a downloaded one, you could potentially move that copy to other computer or share it with other users.  Also you could put it on other media such as DVD, IPod, etc.  This is a big no no.

Now they said they're were going to instead work with ISPs to help stop the pirating.  Who know what invasive stuff they'll try and get them to do.

Disclaimer: I'm not a TIVO expert!  I understand you can offload from TIVO to your PC (correct me if I'm wrong) so, again, what's the difference?

[Denholm]

The difference is that you're not downloading it from a source that violated the copyright.

[Ack-Ack]

One side of me says it is stealing. The other side thinks the rich are worrying about not being as rich.
They see how much they are loosing not how much they already have. It makes me wonder if these kind of websites would ruin the music industry or would it just not be as fruitful.

It is stealing, there is no grey area.  You're also not taking money from the executives and it's not a case of the rich trying to get richer.  By stealing music, games and movies you impact those that make the stuff, like the sound engineers, studio musicians, distributors, etc.

Maybe it's because I work in an industry that is directly impacted by piracy, all I know is that every little piece of sh*t that pirates on of my company's games, it's taking food from my table and that frankly pisses me off.

So for those that pirate music, games or movies, you're nothing but thieves and there is nothing you can do to justify your actions.

ack-ack

[CAP1]

Well it's about time.  I'm sure there are those of you on both sides of this fence.  What do you think about this?

Critics say the legal offensive ultimately did little to stem the tide of illegally downloaded music. And it created a public-relations disaster for the industry, whose lawsuits targeted, among others, several single mothers, a dead person and a 13-year-old girl.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,470039,00.html

THE WAY I See it, is if you gave me one of your ac/dc cd's to copy, no one would come after you, right?

d/l'ing them from the net is the same to me.

[JAGED]

The difference is that you're not downloading it from a source that violated the copyright.

So, it's fine to offload from TIVO, but it's not fine to download from someone else who offloaded from TIVO? Seems like a fine line...

[Bronk]

It is stealing, there is no grey area.  You're also not taking money from the executives and it's not a case of the rich trying to get richer.  By stealing music, games and movies you impact those that make the stuff, like the sound engineers, studio musicians, distributors, etc.

Maybe it's because I work in an industry that is directly impacted by piracy, all I know is that every little piece of sh*t that pirates on of my company's games, it's taking food from my table and that frankly pisses me off.

So for those that pirate music, games or movies, you're nothing but thieves and there is nothing you can do to justify your actions.

ack-ack

[Kuhn]

It is stealing, there is no grey area.  You're also not taking money from the executives and it's not a case of the rich trying to get richer.  By stealing music, games and movies you impact those that make the stuff, like the sound engineers, studio musicians, distributors, etc.

Maybe it's because I work in an industry that is directly impacted by piracy, all I know is that every little piece of sh*t that pirates on of my company's games, it's taking food from my table and that frankly pisses me off.

So for those that pirate music, games or movies, you're nothing but thieves and there is nothing you can do to justify your actions.

ack-ack

Well there is one side of the fence for ya.
It's always the people doing the work that suffer.

[Babalonian]

It is bad in that the people who worked on creating the product don't get paid for their efforts by piracy.  But as the OP quoted from the news article, the industry's hard-ass aproach of setting their lawyers loose on "offenders" is backwards.  The industry needs to realise the market has changed, and while they were wasting time and money to try and stop the inevitable they could of been investing and developing in ways to go with the flow/change and make some profit if not a fortune.

[Xasthur]

It is stealing, there is no grey area.  You're also not taking money from the executives and it's not a case of the rich trying to get richer.  By stealing music, games and movies you impact those that make the stuff, like the sound engineers, studio musicians, distributors, etc.

Maybe it's because I work in an industry that is directly impacted by piracy, all I know is that every little piece of sh*t that pirates on of my company's games, it's taking food from my table and that frankly pisses me off.

So for those that pirate music, games or movies, you're nothing but thieves and there is nothing you can do to justify your actions.

ack-ack

I've always been of a similar line of thought. I have always approved of music downloading though, when used responsibly.

I've have got into countless bands because I downloaded or heard a track of theirs on the internet. I would never have otherwise heard this band's music and never would have been tempted to buy any of their releases.

Having said that, if I do truly like a band I will go out of my way to buy their records, merch and tickets to gigs, even if I have already downloaded the stuff.

As a matter of fact, I just ordered in a cd the other day... I had to spend over 2 hours in god-awful city traffic and it cost me a lot of money but christ is it satisfying to put that cd into the stereo and listen to that song that you heard on the internet whilst reading the lyrics and flipping through the booklet.

Long live hard-copy music!!!