Porking Ords

[dunnrite]

Generally porkers wont fight. They dive through and suicide. No fun there.

I always try to fight after I drop my ords (p47-d40).  Although I am not good at it.  That is, unless I lawn dart.  Which I have been known to do.

[waystin2]

Generally porkers wont fight. They dive through and suicide. No fun there.

Unfortunately this is true in the bulk of the porkers.  My question is what is their motivation? 

[dunnrite]

Unfortunately this is true in the bulk of the porkers.  My question is what is their motivation? 

They get their gvs bombed.

[Patches1]

Fuel on Airfields cannot be reduced below 75% now...and Barracks and Acks have been increased in number making it very difficult for a single jabo aircraft to nullify capture ability of an Airfield, and limit fast fighter aircraft to defend the Airfield. However, if you take out the Airfield's Ordnance, then the enemy has no Ordnance for Attack or Bomber Aircraft, and you can limit the enemy response.

The downside is...taking out an Airfield's Ordnance does not affect that Airfield's ability to utilize Ground Vehicles (providing a spawn point exists) to continue to assault the Opposing Airfield with ground based fire. If the Vehicle Hangar at the enemy Airfield is taken down (2800 pounds of Ordnance required) it will only remain down for a maximum of 15 minutes (the same as any Fighter or Bomber Hangar at an Airfield).

So...the taking out of Ordnance affects aircraft...the taking out of the fuel limits fast fighters to 75%...and the taking out of the Vehicle Hangar (or Fighter, or Bomber Hangar) only lasts 15 minutes maximum time.

OH! The Radar! It's third on my list of Targets at an Airfield, and Ordnance is number One! What is number Two?

The Barracks...because they affect both the Air Game, and the Ground Game...Barracks supply Troops for capture attempts, both air and ground, and also, the supplies necessary to rebuild damaged ground vehicles, or airfields.

So, on my list of targets to hit, based upon a single jabo platform (my preference is the F4U Series of aircraft) I chose to limit my opponents' ability to take out my ability to bomb him (Ordnance), then his ability to capture me, or resupply himself (barracks), and then his ability to see me performing the first two acts (why waste Ordnance on a single target that cannot bomb, resupply, or capture you).

Just some thoughts.

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[Patches1]

Additionally...after I've released my Ordnance and have been holed by much ack, or opposing aircraft, or not,...I will fight to the best of my ability with what I have left.

I don't belive in the "Pork 'n' Die" concept, although, I die very often to ack trying to accomplish my mission.

The very nice thing about a Corsair is that once it is free of Ordnance...it becomes a Fighter...and I do get lucky, sometimes.  ;-)

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[waystin2]

They get their gvs bombed.

So the act of porking is just a response by those who want to fight, being attacked?  Why attack the ords, when you could attack the guys bombing you?  I will say again that ords porking has it's place, but it is not a replacement for fighting the bad guys.  This is one of those odd things about this game.  I am not condemning it, just having trouble wrapping my head around it.

[Rich46yo]

Best Jabo to dive bomb an airfield with is the Corsair. I second that. Second best is the Hellcat. If you use a Jug then just shoot a hole in your main tank before you dive and save the enemy the trouble. Until they fix that damage model I'll never fly Jugs much. The 38 is fairly good but fragile and you get a lot of pilot wounds. I like the 38 to take out a VH due to its climb rate. The Mossie is a fine Jabo and the Typhie does well too.

[dunnrite]

So the act of porking is just a response by those who want to fight, being attacked?  Why attack the ords, when you could attack the guys bombing you?  I will say again that ords porking has it's place, but it is not a replacement for fighting the bad guys.  This is one of those odd things about this game.  I am not condemning it, just having trouble wrapping my head around it.

Was actually meant as a joke. 

[waystin2]

Was actually meant as a joke. 

Roger that dunnrite.  I understood it that way.  There is some truth in it though.

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Fuel on Airfields cannot be reduced below 75% now...and Barracks and Acks have been increased in number making it very difficult for a single jabo aircraft to nullify capture ability of an Airfield, and limit fast fighter aircraft to defend the Airfield. However, if you take out the Airfield's Ordnance, then the enemy has no Ordnance for Attack or Bomber Aircraft, and you can limit the enemy response.

The downside is...taking out an Airfield's Ordnance does not affect that Airfield's ability to utilize Ground Vehicles (providing a spawn point exists) to continue to assault the Opposing Airfield with ground based fire. If the Vehicle Hangar at the enemy Airfield is taken down (2800 pounds of Ordnance required) it will only remain down for a maximum of 15 minutes (the same as any Fighter or Bomber Hangar at an Airfield).

So...the taking out of Ordnance affects aircraft...the taking out of the fuel limits fast fighters to 75%...and the taking out of the Vehicle Hangar (or Fighter, or Bomber Hangar) only lasts 15 minutes maximum time.

OH! The Radar! It's third on my list of Targets at an Airfield, and Ordnance is number One! What is number Two?

The Barracks...because they affect both the Air Game, and the Ground Game...Barracks supply Troops for capture attempts, both air and ground, and also, the supplies necessary to rebuild damaged ground vehicles, or airfields.

So, on my list of targets to hit, based upon a single jabo platform (my preference is the F4U Series of aircraft) I chose to limit my opponents' ability to take out my ability to bomb him (Ordnance), then his ability to capture me, or resupply himself (barracks), and then his ability to see me performing the first two acts (why waste Ordnance on a single target that cannot bomb, resupply, or capture you).

Just some thoughts.

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This is a great explanation Patches and actually makes sense.  You are porking as part of the fight, instead of porking for the sake of porking.  Or worst yet, porking to stop people from attacking you while you are trying to fight.

[Patches1]

WoW! Hehehe...not sure how to respond, waystin2, <grin>, but,  yes, I suppose the "act of porking" is a fight against those who want to fight (but I'm not quite sure just how you mean this). However, if you are specifically addressing bombers, then, again, yes, I fight Bombers by taking away their ability to Bomb me.

On the other hand...I love a very good fighter/bomber duel at altitudes of 20-30K. You may even begin to believe that I am setting up just such a scenario by limiting the availabilty of ordnance. By doing so...I may predict where yours bombers may come from and plot a path to meet them...on the other hand...I'm probably not that good.

Just a thought...

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[simshell]

I was thinking about harding the objects to maybe give heavy bombers more purpose since people when need more heavy bombloads,

no idea if it would work out that way

[RTHolmes]

If you use a Jug then just shoot a hole in your main tank before you dive and save the enemy the trouble.

so true - main fuel hit half the time I dive on a base (and I usually forget to leave 25% in the aux ). I know its a big target but it cant be that easy to hit doing 500+ ...


edit: as for stopping porkers ... wirble/osti

[helbent]

Generally porkers wont fight. They dive through and suicide. No fun there.

Surviving the run and then being able to fight is very exciting for me, or even fighting on the way in.  I laugh everytime I kill someone while im still hvy as I proceed to target.

I like p38 period.  Even jabo, the 10 rockets gives you many options.  Yes pilot is succeptable.

Rooks are in dire need of more porkers.  Its not that hard to bring a hvy in.  I will never stop porking.  I am affecting the enemies ability to wage war on me and my countrymen.  The one thing that I will not do is take down fighter hangars (well circumstances have to pretty extreme).

[Shuffler]

Unless you take down all hangars your not affecting it much if any. Il2s and B25Hs can up and kill the gvs. Fighters can still fly and kill......

[Nightshift82]

Generally porkers wont fight. They dive through and suicide. No fun there.

My mind set when I pork is to ignore the fighters and destory the enemy's assests.  And when I get shot down, there's a shiny new plane waiting for me back at the hanger.  Lots of fun for me, also it tunes down the country channel complants that bases are being over run and no one is helping, making it more fun for me.  I'm sorry that the opposite side of it doesn't have fun, but I pay 14.95 a month to have MY fun.  If someone paid it for me, I would be sure to make it fun for them.