Author Topic: Clipboard in view = frame rate leech  (Read 339 times)

Offline flakbait

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« on: August 11, 2000, 09:58:00 AM »
I found this out playing around in both the M3/M16 and C.205. With even the top edge of the Clipboard visible, you take a heavy FPS hit. Try it: take a 205 up with the default head position set and check your frame rate. Now move the view forward until the top of the Clipboard isn't visible anymore. You get a slight FPS increase. For the people running P III 750s with 128 megs of RAM, they really don't see any reason for the 5 or 6 FPS increase. For guys like me, running on a P 200 and 32 megs of SDRAM, those 5 or 6 extra FPS are worth it.

An example: I was putting around in an M3 just North of A20. My frame rate was a steady 16 FPS with the default head position. When I moved the view forward enough to knock out the top edge of the Clipboard, it jumped to 26. Same for the C.205; 12 FPS normally, 21 when I push the view forward enough to not see the Clipboard. Herein lies the problem: if you puch the view up to the point you don't see the Clipboard, you lose gauges. As it stands now, you can't read prop RPM in the 205 with the head position pushed up.

Even with the Clipboard sitting there, barely in view, you take an FPS hit. It's still showing where you are on the map, even though you're not looking at it directly. This is why you take a hit.

The inevitable request:
Would HT and the gang consider pushing the Clipboard to a spot in the cockpit where you can't see it at all? Next to the pilot, on the floor, would be perfect for an idle position. To recite the problem above: if I move the head position forward to where I don't see the Clipboard, I can't see some gauges. Oil temp and pressure are the two most common gauges lost. In the 205 I've lost prop RPM and MAN pressure gauges, plus both oil gauges, because of this.

Heck, shove the Clipboard down a foot further and I'd get a 7-10 FPS increase. Problem is we can't move the idle position of the Clipboard. Click on the sucker to move it, and it pops up. So, I'm asking you guys to take care of it. Perhaps a minor FPS increase tweak for 1.04?


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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2000, 10:52:00 AM »
I agree flakbait, should be moved. But to where? I think they put it where it is right now because if you put it where it was really stored in aircraft(in a slot underneath the pilot's seat), then you run into "collision" problems when the clipboard is pulled up to the screen. This is just speculation of course.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2000, 01:38:00 PM »
What's your usual frame rate flakbait?  And what video card do you have?  I have a buddy who has a P233 and likes to play on my machine but his video card is only 4mb so the game is unplayable.  It would be nice for him to play AT HIS OWN HOUSE!  

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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2000, 07:02:00 PM »
I have almost the same framerate as flakbait, i use a P166, with a voodoo3 3000 16MB card and 64MB RAM. i usually get 9-11 fps, 17 on a real clear day with no clipboard in view :P thanks for the suggestions flak, it didn't even click until you mentioned it but i've noticed the same fps increases, just didn't realize what was causing them.  Cya ita

(I really like my 4 fps when in the terrain editor lol)

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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2000, 11:24:00 PM »
My system specs:

Dell Pentium 200 MHz w/MMX
32 megs SDRAM
512k pipeline burst cache
3DFX Banshee card w/16 megs SDRAM onboard
Viking V.90 56k modem [don't buy one of these]

My typical frame rate is 17, but jumps up to 25 when flying the Niki. Why so high? No Clipboard in view by default. Every plane that shows a Clipboard even barely in view takes a hit as I explained above. This is why I'd like to see HTC move it out of view. Just push it down out of the default view so we get better frame rates.


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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2000, 04:45:00 AM »
Ya can have my c300a when I get my new cpu  

It does run at 450 mhz, but only on cool days  




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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2000, 08:23:00 AM »
Gee, thanks St. I plan on getting a P3 when my wallet says I can, which isn't any time soon. Until then I can only hope HT or Pyro gets a gander at this thread and moves the Clipboard down 6 inches.


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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2000, 09:17:00 AM »
Fades back........drops right......ducks a blocker.......PUNTS!!!!


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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2000, 03:01:00 PM »
Thanks for the info guys... looks like a voodoo3 card is the way to go for him then...


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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2000, 03:19:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by flakbait:
Gee, thanks St.   I plan on getting a P3 when my wallet says I can, which isn't any time soon. Until then I can only hope HT or Pyro gets a gander at this thread and moves the Clipboard down 6 inches.


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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2000, 02:29:00 AM »
Thanks for the offer Rip, but I need a new motherboard before I can upgrade this rust bucket to either a P2 or P3. I don't have the cash right now to do it. As it stands, I need a Superdisk drive more than I need a faster machine. Since this comp is quite tempermental, I need storage space to back-up files I'm constantly losing.


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