Author Topic: Guages are all English, WHY?  (Read 1863 times)

Offline Creamo

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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2000, 11:38:00 PM »
Well?

I know HT can't respond to me online or here, but can someone ask this question so we know?

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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2000, 02:16:00 PM »
Creamo;

As my memory serves HTC's answer was kind of like -->  "We don't want to!"

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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2000, 07:43:00 PM »
Your memory serves you well Mino

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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2000, 03:56:00 PM »
metric please!!!!!

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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2000, 04:06:00 PM »
btw.... 654km/h is fast  

and the Japanese use Romanji(English alphabet), Hirigana(sounding/foriegn 'alphabet' ), Katakana(Japanese 'alphabet' ), and kanji(Japanese 'word' characters) for there guages.

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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2000, 08:06:00 AM »
I agree - historical instruments are a must - or at least have metric measurements. I'd also favour authentic ammo counters - but this would mean that no Allied or Japanese aircraft would have any form of counter, AFAIK (?)

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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2000, 08:32:00 AM »
There are multiple resones we will not be doing non english gauges.

1. It realy does create confusion when you start mixing units in one arena. Think of calling alt's of bogies, your manifold pressure or speed to a wingman.

2. If you setup what the real planes have it makes it much harder to switch between planes. This might sound like immersion but tend's to just be a tedious conversion in head task.

3. Assuming we must standardize on one unit, we choose the one with which our bigest market is most familar with (English).

4. Increase in download size.

5. Time in making multiple gauge sets.

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2000, 08:57:00 AM »
Its actually an eliteist Oportunistic American Conspiracy to make all the fun loving Europeans switch back to the old Imperial  measurement system.  

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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2000, 09:54:00 AM »
Uhmmm...
Our largest selling technical magazine "World of Technic" just let us know they're not gonna tell horsepowers anymore; Only KiloWatts.
Also they tested what is really a hp: in short time pull a "Finnish horse" (used in coutry work) can achieve 28 hp power  

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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2000, 11:00:00 AM »
HiTech:

What about realistic ammo counters, or lack thereof?

Pretty pleeeeease?  



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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2000, 12:00:00 PM »
 
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Its actually an eliteist Oportunistic American Conspiracy to make all the fun loving Europeans switch back to the old Imperial  measurement system.  



That is very true Verm, plus we halted those fun loving Europeans attempts to assimilate us through their diabolical scheme using that Metric mole Jimmy Carter....whew thank goodness he didn't suceed with his dastardly plan.

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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2000, 12:13:00 PM »
hitech, some of your reasons are pretty arrogant. Some of the same kind of reasoning that makes us Americans such villains in other parts of the world.

It doesn't *matter* that most of your market is "familiar" with english. Just the reason that certain planes DID have metric guages is reason enough to model them. It's a real burst to suspension of disbelief when I'm flying a 109 and trying to convert MPH to KPH in my head. I don't see why we CAN'T have a choice.

Confusion???? Give me a break. A few people ask questions about kilometers/feet/miles in *name of sim omitted*, but it doesn't do more than cause a message or two more in the buffer. No more than people asking what "Horrido" or "Jabo" means. As for making it hard to switch between planes, we can each make that decision ourselves, can't we???

As to download size, I'll have to defer to you on that, but what are we talking? A few K? Or are you saying you have to have different versions of the entire metric cockpit, rather than change the art in the gauge circles themselves (which would be a good reason, I grant ya)?

As for time, you people seem to be doing a FINE job of releasing updates. This would set you back THAT far???

Sorry to have to get in yer face on this, but as I said, your answer was a bit presumptious; and I thought that earlier post that said your position on this issue was, "Cuz we don't WANT to" was a joke. Now I'm not so sure.

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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2000, 12:45:00 PM »
Ok Stiglr explain how any of my resones were arrogant?

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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2000, 01:30:00 PM »
allllllllrighty....

 
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It realy does create confusion when you start mixing units in one arena. Think of calling alt's of bogies, your manifold pressure or speed to a wingman.

This assumes we're too stupid to do the math or work things out. If you were adding a feature that wasn't in the real planes, then I wouldn't argue with you. The devil's in the details with sims.

 
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If you setup what the real planes have it makes it much harder to switch between planes

This also assumes we're too stupid or lazy to figure it out, or do what it takes to adjust.

I can't really argue your "main market" point, *if* we have to assume we can only have one standard. But, the "the whole world speaks English, don't they?" attitude is at the heart of the Ugly American image.

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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2000, 02:14:00 PM »
Who cares about the ugly american image. you do, but that does not change the fact that most of the world speaks more than 1 language and English is normaly a secondary language.  English can be found in more places than any other single language.  Doesn't matter if it gives us americans an ugly imperialistic image. Truth is truth.  Besides, somehow as americans we do not need to learn a second language, wherelse in europe 2 languages are the norm.

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