Cherry Picker

[Oldman731]

So when do we eliminate lets see the 51, most of the 190s and any other plane that cant turn with the furballers, or should we try and dogfight them against packs of 38's spits and La's? 

You don't have to pick to be effective in any of these planes (well...maybe the A8....).  I suspect you know this!

- oldman

[Bronk]

So when do we eliminate lets see the 51, most of the 190s and any other plane that cant turn with the furballers, or should we try and dogfight them against packs of 38's spits and La's? 

I got it lets setup an arena for them. But no that wouldn't be historical, besides then they would pick with other planes, lets just fly them low then people can say look at that idiot in the 51 on the deck yummy lets go jump him. Then they can still feel wiser and smarter though.

No, lets just wait for another like plane to come along and hope some furballer in a spit16 doesn't come along. 

Use them to their strengths, no then I'm a picker they'll brand me geez what do I do.

I got it, play by their rules, no that wont work then I have to check in with them before I fly and see which hypocritical mood their in. 

Wow this is getting complicated sorta takes the fun out of it.

If it's a label if you don't like it don't do it. I on the other hand will attempt to shoot down whatever red AC crosses my nose. Best of luck to you.

[Becinhu]

So when do we eliminate lets see the 51, most of the 190s and any other plane that cant turn with the furballers, or should we try and dogfight them against packs of 38's spits and La's?

As opposed to the spits, la's, and ki's that go into "seizure" mode when you get on their tail. As for 190s the f-8 is a decent turner as is the d-9 if you keep it above 250. 

[Zazen13]

Everybody picks.  Furballers are pickers. In a furball of say, 20 V 20, you are lying to your self and everyone else if you think there isn't a bunch of picking going on. In this same 20 V 20 furball, there isn't 20 1 V 1's going on. There isn't a guy in the MA who ups fighters who doesn't pick, not a single one.

Precisely. Picking is a fundamental part of every air combat involving more than 2 combatants. It's actually what makes it interesting. You always have to be mindful when attacking another plane that there is potentially someone else about to do the same to you. I find engagements where that is not a possibility exceedingly boring and uninteresting.

[Lusche]

As for 190s the f-8 is a decent turner

You must be kidding...

[Bronk]

Precisely. Picking is a fundamental part of air combat involving more than 2 combatants. It's actually what makes it interesting. You always have to be mindful when attacking another plane that there is potentially someone else about to do the same to you. I find engagements where that is not a possibility exceedingly boring and uninteresting.

I'd say zipping around at warp speed in a temp or a tiff waiting for an sa overloaded target is.........exceedingly boring and uninteresting.

But that's just me.

[Hungry]

I'd say zipping around at warp speed in a temp or a tiff waiting for an sa overloaded target is.........exceedingly boring and uninteresting.

But that's just me.

Bronk why cant you just let people fly what and how they choose to fly without the not so subtle innuendo that somehow its wrong.

[VonMessa]

You must be kidding...

I'm glad I refrained from responding, but I'm glad you did.

It's much more plausible coming from you.

            

[Zazen13]

I'd say zipping around at warp speed in a temp or a tiff waiting for an sa overloaded target is.........exceedingly boring and uninteresting.

But that's just me.

You've obviously never tried it... Someone who just zips around at light speed waiting for those totally overwhelmed will not be effective. To even consider exclusively doing anything even vaguely close to what you describe, in a way that might garner a reasonable rate of kills/time, requires extremely sharp aim and timing. To make passes at only heavily engaged bandits is a recipe for a pelt pouch full of assists and a lot of blown E/Alt with no results.

[Bronk]

Bronk why cant you just let people fly what and how they choose to fly without the not so subtle innuendo that somehow its wrong.

Am I stopping them somehow?   When did you all give me such power?  Question is why wasn't I informed of this?

Great... Spit XII and 150 octane fuel for all.

[Hungry]

Am I stopping them somehow?   When did you all give me such power?  Question is why wasn't I informed of this?

Great... Spit XII and 150 octane fuel for all.

Dont kid youself you have no power except over the feeble minded, but it is power you seek or your "interest" wouldnt be so intense.

[VonMessa]

Am I stopping them somehow?   When did you all give me such power?  Question is why wasn't I informed of this?

Great... Spit XII and 150 octane fuel for all.

We didn't give you the power, the helmet did 

[Bronk]

Dont kid youself you have no power except over the feeble minded, but it is power you seek or your "interest" wouldnt be so intense.

Yup it's working. 

[Bronk]

You've obviously never tried it...

Really... I'm glad you have knowledge off all the things I do in AH.

Just so ya know Zaz ya don't need warp speed ac to pick...but it helps.

[Zazen13]

Really... I'm glad you have knowledge off all the things I do in AH.

Just so ya know Zaz ya don't need warp speed ac to pick...but it helps.

Speed = Initiative, Initiative = Pro-active aggressiveness.

Therefore, the slower your aircraft the more likely you will be in reactionary mode, defensive and unable to maintain an aggressive posture for any protracted period sufficient to consummate the kill...If you try you are probably rendering yourself vulnerable to being cherry picked. This is why aircraft have developed to be faster over time not tighter turning.