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Offline Xasthur

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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2009, 08:19:13 AM »
One thing where the Macchi beats the 109 is high speed handling.
It feels to me as very pleasant with E, and being as rare as it is in the MA, many pilots do not know how to fight it.
I'd love to se a graphics update, it's a beauty.

Indeed, I feel like the 205 is a middle-ground between the 109G series and the 190A series.

Easier to handle at high speeds but still turns quite well, hits well with the two MG 151/20, climbs well and has an awful forward view.  :aok

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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2009, 05:55:47 PM »
I fly the C205 quite a bit... And I just love to see P-38s. Big targets that I usaully punch a bunch of holes in.


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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2009, 02:45:06 AM »
Gee don't make posts like this :)

Let everyone think it is a very ordinary plane.

We don't want too many to know just how good it can be.

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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2009, 07:42:07 AM »
IMHO

it is the best about 15-20k with speed seems allot smoother in its attitude and a typhoon would have trouble getting away from you @ that alt

the main downer is the fragile wings
doesn't take much to take them out
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Offline RipChord929

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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2009, 08:00:26 AM »
Been flyin the 205 off and on..
I Like it!!! Cept for that LONG nose...
Shootin blind, on those long lead shots takes some practice..

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Offline Larry

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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2009, 08:58:16 AM »
I see it like a mix of the 109F, 109G6 and, 190A5. Speed is like the 109F4, the climb is like the 109G6, and the armament/turn radius is like the 190A5.
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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2009, 04:47:09 PM »
I think the 205 handles much better than the g2.  There are few planes in ah that handle as well as the 205 in a high speed dive. its very stable and great for bnz. it picks up e like the best of them.

the ammo load out is out-standing in the 205.

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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2009, 08:19:59 PM »
205 v most american fighter 1v1.  First thing I'll do as the 205 pilot is try to bleed the other guys E.  Then I'll use the spiral climb and when he strugles to climb I'll increase my E and BnZ him.  That works well on any AC don't can't climb like the 205.  Try that against a K4 or even a p38 and you go POOF!  But if it's not a 1v1 you better have the alt advantage to begin with.
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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2009, 09:07:18 PM »
(coming from a 109 stick...)
The C205 really doesn't climb as well. It can't even keep up with a Freidrich above 6K. Actually, in terms of climb rate and speed, it's surprisingly similar to the Freidrich except for a peak the Macchi experiences at about 6k. And of course turn performance isn't anywhere close.

The Macchi really is a kind of mix between the 190 and the 109, except it's not as fast. It doesn't turn as well as the 109 (but better than the 190) but it has much better high-speed performance than the 109, as well as a better armament.

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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2009, 09:13:48 PM »
Look, folks, the C205 sucks, so just stop flying it.





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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2009, 01:55:59 PM »
(coming from a 109 stick...)
The C205 really doesn't climb as well. It can't even keep up with a Freidrich above 6K. Actually, in terms of climb rate and speed, it's surprisingly similar to the Freidrich except for a peak the Macchi experiences at about 6k. And of course turn performance isn't anywhere close.

The Macchi really is a kind of mix between the 190 and the 109, except it's not as fast. It doesn't turn as well as the 109 (but better than the 190) but it has much better high-speed performance than the 109, as well as a better armament.

Any decent 205 driver will dictate the fight againts a 109F. You should have met a lot of 205 dweebs in your AH2 career.
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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2009, 02:02:06 PM »
Any decent 205 driver will dictate the fight againts a 109F. You should have met a lot of 205 dweebs in your AH2 career.


What are the specific advantages the C205 pilot can utilize vs the 109F? Which will even allow him to dictate the fight?
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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2009, 03:23:06 PM »
Is the performance gain significant if you swap the cannons for the MGs in the wings?
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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2009, 03:56:24 PM »
Is the performance gain significant if you swap the cannons for the MGs in the wings?

Minor, and IMHO not significant enough to justify to go back to almost 1/4th firepower.. unless you're looking for an additional challenge ;)
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Re: The C-205...Under-rated?
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2009, 03:56:40 PM »

What are the specific advantages the C205 pilot can utilize vs the 109F? Which will even allow him to dictate the fight?

In my personal experience I have always exploited the horizontal speed advantage, the superior diving speed, the better roll rate at high speed against the F-4, the G-2 and the G-6.
Even against the G-14. Only good K-4 drivers kept me at distance. Theory is one thing, practice is another: 109 drivers usually fly too slow thinking they can outclimb everything, they generally underestimate enemy aircraft E state.
Please note that I love the 109, and in some TOD I got the most part of my kills with the 109G-10 and then with the 109K-4.
I flew almost only the 205 and the K-4.

To wedge1126: yes, the lightly armed 205 climbs (and probably rolls) much better than the cannon armed one, but with those two 7mm I couldnt shoot down anything.
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