Author Topic: I like to furball (Read 3684 times)

Mighty1 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 25, 2001, 09:43:00 AM »

The problem I had with A1 last night was that some of the guys that were trying to save it were also the ones screaming for the rest of us to save the rest of the bases. Yeah we had 60 people on but 40 where at or going to A1.

I can understand wanting to furball or what ever you like but when you lose 10 bases so you can keep one is stupid!

By all means fly the way you want..I know I sure as hell do but I'm not going to be on the side that's going to lose the war because of the A1 furball mentality.

I know I know all sides do it but not all sides do it at the same time. I'll just have to find the side that is more interested in winning the war and join them.

SKurj · « **Reply #16 on:** January 25, 2001, 09:47:00 AM »

Heh Dinger, I was hearing the other side of the battle. HURRY lets get A1, WE NEED HELP A1, HAVEN'T YOU GUYS GOT A1 yet!!

I got tired of that too

With the numbers that were converging on A1 it was uncaptureable, especially with the yeller bastids not willing to strafe acks (hope it wasn't those ppl screaming for help in capturing it)
And while all these resources were being spent on hitting A1 some of our other bases were being hit.
Those big bases typically defend themselves alot of the time, it takes just a handful of guys to defend a field like that. People just don't realize that.

I do think a Fightertown style arena would be welcomed by the community, and it would see quite a bit of traffic IMO. We have a large enough player base to support it now as well. (permit no freebies in it, and it would probably get very busy!!

)

SKurj

Pepino · « **Reply #17 on:** January 25, 2001, 09:52:00 AM »

IMHO, spawners are valid and useful tactic.

Valid, because it is not cheating, and it takes a hvy toll on ranking. Plus, it exploits a badly executed attack.

Useful, because it buys time for the rest of the country, fix valuable resources from the attacker's side, and, eventually, could prevent the field from taking.

So, pls, don't bash on us, poor hopeless defenders.

Cheers,

Pepe

Kieren · « **Reply #18 on:** January 25, 2001, 09:53:00 AM »

Yeah, I am not discriminant about the yelling. The minute it starts, I tune out. I play strat on rare occasions. I sometimes will try a one-man stand at bases as well. I may say "help at 7" once or twice, but I am not about to go on about it on the country channel. The people who are gonna help will be there after the first call or two. After that you waste your breath.

Last night I kept hearing things like "You stupid guys couldn't defend the VH?! LOSERS!" "You idiots went for the VH? I said hit the acks!" (direct quotes, btw). I listened to that for the duration of my flying, laughing. No damn way I am gonna help anyone yelling like that.

I don' need no steeeenkeeng veeeheekul haingurrr....

I don' need no steeeenkeeeng feeeeeld captuuurre....

I jus' wan' some FUR-balllllll....

[This message has been edited by Kieren (edited 01-25-2001).]

Hangtime · « **Reply #19 on:** January 25, 2001, 10:35:00 AM »

We need to strike a balance.. the strat guys should not be at odds with the furballers or vice versa. Enuff 'space' exists for both..

Most strat guys look at the map and see what needs to be done.. but it ain't his squads 'night' and the immediate problem for him is "Where do I get the pilot resources to do what must be done??"

Combined Ops is an answer.. 3 guys from this squad; 2 from that one, another 4 from this outfit over there.. none of them out flying on squad night, none by themselves have the resources to make an impact on the strat. But together, they do. Suddenly instead of just 1 or 2 or 4 guys trying to reverse the losses being suffered by the country it's 8 to 12 guys.. and with 8-12 guys running a programme where all know the others responsibilties, and do it RIGHT, well dammo, yah got a significant impact on strat real soon.

Let the furballers hang out at A1.. the competent ones; when they see attacks succeeding, and realise that they can participate in one via the click of a mouse (because a FAST ATTACK mission is usually always up in the map room) will begin to feel comfortable about joining in to do a task or fly a slot on a mission in part because when his Squad flew in a Combined Ops Night on the last Thursday he had FUN... and in part because mindless furballin can get old.

Let 'em furball I say, and when they get tired of no radar, they'll come bish; and fly missions when they ain't furballing.

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Hang
1st/AG "Bishlanders" << Recruiting!!

mrfish · « **Reply #20 on:** January 25, 2001, 10:35:00 AM »

yeah i like the missions and coordinated squad stuff but.......

i cant stand this stuff:

"ARE YOU GUYS BLIND AND STUPID!!! ATTACK!!!"

"OH WELL I GUESS WE WILL ALL JUST DIE SINCE NO ONE WILL HELP"

"SIGH....<MARTYR MODE ON>....NO ONE WILL HELP I GUESS ALL MY HARD WORK IS IN VAIN.."

trying to coordinate is one thing but hopin on the country channel and trying to insult people into helping wont get you far with me....

Staga · « **Reply #21 on:** January 25, 2001, 10:38:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Westy:
Maybe there should be a small arena for the minority of generals? Hmmmm

IMHO HTC really should open two arenas:
-One for furballing and
-one for (as Westy says) "Generals".

That way we all could live happily to the end of our miserable lifes without having to argue/listen people who dont share our pow's

Also that might be a way to fight against some other games which are coming later this year.
Only way to stay in business is keep your customers happy with your product.
After all some of us are looking a game with more "depth" than furballing (No insult here Westy & Others).

[This message has been edited by Staga (edited 01-25-2001).]

Ripsnort · « **Reply #22 on:** January 25, 2001, 10:39:00 AM »

Hang:

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Combined Ops is an answer.. 3 guys from this squad; 2 from that one, another 4 from this outfit over there.. none of them out flying on squad night, none by themselves have the resources to make an impact on the strat. But together, they do. Suddenly instead of just 1 or 2 or 4 guys trying to reverse the losses being suffered by the country it's 8 to 12 guys.. and with 8-12 guys running a programme where all know the others responsibilties, and do it RIGHT, well dammo, yah got a significant impact on strat real soon.

Sounds like this is something new to the Bishops? About time you guys caught on.

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Westy · « **Reply #23 on:** January 25, 2001, 10:54:00 AM »

"Also that might be a way to fight against some other games which are coming later this year. Only way to stay in business is keep your customers happy with your product. After all some of us are looking a game with more "depth" than furballing (No insult here Westy & Others)."

No insult taken and I'm not intending to be either! <S>

But last night the customers DID speak by thier actions. Many, many folks wanted to furball at A1.
As for competing with other games in the future? These games (only one really that I can think of <G> ) will have the same problem. Actually it will be WORSE. Why? Because it is mission centric and every one there will be "a little general" by either posting too many missions or if they do not have the rank to do so they will constantly express thier opinion of what should be done over the common channel - just as they have in AW, WB's and here in AH.
There is no escape from having to deal with what other people want to do, even if it is not what some think they should do. Well, EXCEPT, in scenarios where a military like obedience is the "norm" and allegiance to the cause is expected.
There is no war to be won in the MA. There is a reset, rinse & repeat. A hamsters life.

Allow me to share this with you. From a friend I had in AW a few years back. It's something he wrote in response to the same kind of issue when folks did not understand why people would not listen to thier passionate (snork!) entreaties to rally for the land grabbing cause"

-Westy

==========================

Hampsters Dream -- by Pasha

HAMPSTER'S MAIN OBJECTIVE:
....eEEeee......eEEeee....... ...eEEeee......eEEeee......

1) I will win the war in
BigPac(ie. the main arena)....eEEeee......eEEeee....... ...eEEeee......eEEeee......

Section A: Win the War. (Chewing Aluminum Tubes for Water)

To complete this objective will be easy for me as a rodent, I am naturally
nocturnal. I will fly unescorted buffs....eEEeee......eEEeee.. ...., deep
into enemy territory....eEEeee......eEEe ee......, without
gunners....eEEeee......eEEeee ......, by myself on the
longest....eEEeee......eEEeee ......, most
boring....eEEeee......eEEeee. ....., anti-social....eEEeee......eEEeee......
Point Grab....eEEeee......eEEeee... ... I can think
of....eEEeee......eEEeee..... .

To complete my main objective, I will have to learn a few things to
compete against an expected opposing enemy force of 2 (two), some of these
will surely be ripping my wings, flying in a straight line at an altitude
that is easy to get to in 2 minutes, and finding the "b" key on my keboard,
that is yellow, and orange to match the tunnel, leading to the tower, next
to my water bottle....eEEeee......eEEeee. .....

Section B: I need Points (And Cedar Chips)

I refuse to accept the fact that taking bases was meant to be done by
squads on their squad nites, or impromptu "JAM SESSIONS" put together by
maybe 8-10 guys, making it a team effort, all I really know is you get less
points if you fly with a squad, those bastards end up getting all the
points, besides it is a wasted effort trying to take a base by myself when
there are enemy fighters up.

Section C: Scenario Points don't show in BigPac (I toejam where I sleep)

I would't last 30 seconds in a SCENARIO, besides SCENARIOS HAVE
OBJECTIVES that humans see important, as a HAMPSTER I would be wasting time
in a SCENARIO...... YOU ONLY GET 1 LIFE THERE!!!! Plus you have to accept
orders, just like the humans did in the real war the humans talk about while
I am....eEEeee......eEEeee..... . eating little pellets of compressed
vegitative matter....eEEeee......eEEeee. .....

SCENARIOS ARE A GREAT TIME, TO GET SOME TIME ON MY FAVORITE THING!!!!!!!!!!

....eEEeeeeEe.............eEE eeeeEe.............eEEeeeeEe. ........

I need land, I need lotsa land.... and I know the best time to really get
good at my lifetime ambition, of constantly flying the same mission over,
and over, and over ....alone at 2k in my bomber, is when I am all alone,
when the humans are over in the SCENARIOS, using something they call
TEAMWORK, and some other unknown weapon or something ....they call it
TACTICS over there in the SCENARIO, that is a bunch of crap though, as we
all know, when they return to BigPac, they will see the mistake they have
made flying in the SCENARIO when the find me and two other rodents just like
me have been
"jogging"....eEEeee......eEEeee....... ...eEEeee......eEEeee......

I wish I had known about this game a long time ago in DOS, I may have even
captured every base, and won by now, they had about 6 bases to take, I could
do that in 28minutes and 34seconds!!!! (unopposed, of course)

By the way, In BigPac (ie. main arena) someone told me "IT IS JUST PRACTICE", what are you
guys practicing for anyways?

....eEEeee......eEEeee....... ...eEEeee......eEEeee........ ..eEEeee......eEEe
ee..........eEEeee......eEEee e..........eEEeee......eEEeee ..........eEEeee..
....eEEeee..........eEEeee... ...eEEeee..........eEEeee.... ..eEEeee..........
eEEeee......eEEeee..........e EEeee......eEEeee......

Hard to sleep in the same room while I run in my little wheel, Shave me and
cram me up your ass

The Hampster
....eEEeee......eEEeee......

Zigrat · « **Reply #24 on:** January 25, 2001, 10:57:00 AM »

why even pay 30 dollars a month to furball

tyhats what h2h is for, i had fun furballing in there for free

furballs are more fun in h2h2 because no runstangs etcera just pure acm

imo

Westy · « **Reply #25 on:** January 25, 2001, 11:02:00 AM »

?? Why ?? Because I like the BIG furballs where there are a dozen or two planes all slap fighting each other silly.
And then when I get shot down too many times I like to re-up and hunt for the inevitable buff that will come along and ruin the fight so that I can feel better.

eeeEEeeeeEeeeee

On the other hand I join in on missions to defend, attack, capture, whatever more times when online than not. And when I do I give 110% of myself. But when I'm not in the mood or looking for another type of fun I'm supppoed to play H2H or run off to a min-arena?

No way.

-Westy

[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 01-25-2001).]

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #26 on:** January 25, 2001, 11:10:00 AM »

I'm sorry that there is more to the game than you are willing to contribute. It just seems there are ways to combine your preferences in a manner that is still usefull. Too many people are unwilling to do that in any way.

AKDejaVu

Westy · « **Reply #27 on:** January 25, 2001, 11:24:00 AM »

"I'm sorry that there is more to the game than you are willing to contribute."

Are you talking about contributing to the game or main arena play? If it's the game I intend on participating and helping out with scenarios and other events. If it's the main arena then what you're telling me is that what you do IS some kind of contribution? A contribution to what??? To keep our homeland from evile subjugation? To make right from wrong? Avenge a dispicable invasion by our enemies who have world domination on thier minds? Or to save our natural resources or to keep our population from enslavement?

<eye roll>

"It just seems there are ways to combine your preferences in a manner that is still usefull"

Ahh. So HTC has set up the Main arena with your preferences in mind?

"Too many people are unwilling to do that in any way."

Too many people do not have enough people ike you paying for thier entertainment is what the problem is! I imagine if this were about movies you'd be telling me I do not watch the ones that you think I should be or that I am too quiet in the theatre and should become more involved during the action scenes and root for the "good guys."

-Westy

[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 01-25-2001).]

Kieren · « **Reply #28 on:** January 25, 2001, 12:03:00 PM »

Westy-

Yup, there it is. There I am, enjoying the heck out of myself, playing the way I have time and inclination to, and I will inevitably have someone tell me how pointless and wasted my time is, and how I am not having fun. Then follows the comments on intelligence, etc., etc... not that I care, really, but I serve warning I won't listen to it. I am not in a squad for a reason; I don't need or desire the hassle.

Scream all you want, I'll be giggling.

FWIW, I flew a C47 to capture the port last night in the south. I first had dropped the VH with my Spit, attacked ack at the port (got one, got shot down), and immediately returned with the C47. I got in (thanks to help above) and dropped the troops. How was the effort met?

General: "You idiots, you went for the VH! I told you to go for ack!"
Me: "Hey, if you don't get the VH, you get Osties, far worse than ack"
General: "I told you to get the ack! Idiots! I'm outta here!"
Server: Capture of 21 by the Knights.

I'm thinking ok, screw him and his megalomania. Let's see him take fields on his own. It must have happened that everyone else felt that way, because his calls got higher pitched and more frantic. After a while I stopped reading the buffer, as it was only filled with whining. I would salute whatever pilot I killed/was killed by, and had a great time free from tyranny.

Nash · « **Reply #29 on:** January 25, 2001, 02:04:00 PM »

Sounds like this is different than a furball vs strat debate. Seems to me like some dude getting way too carried away.

Yuck.... yeah.... I wouldn't listen to that
crap either. Suprised *anyone* did.

Author Topic: I like to furball (Read 3684 times)

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