Bristol Beaufighter

[lyric1]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/104339707/Beaufighter-21-Pilot-s-Manual

[Rob52240]

Crimany this is a long thread. 

I think it would add to AH.  Especially if the patch came with a DUKW too.

[Pigslilspaz]

Wow, I forgot about this thread. That being said, we still need this big bird.

[EskimoJoe]

We don't have this yet?

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Really?

[Hajo]

Considering that we have not got the Beaufighter yet I'm wondering if we will get it at any time.

Considering how few 410s I see being used I'm wondering if this voting "stuff" is worthwhile.

The Yak was a good choice and I applaud the selection of the He111 for events.

Again I reiterate how can a WWII flight SIM/Game not include one of the most important
and widely used aircraft in WWII?  The amount of fun that could be had with the  Beau in the
MA is great.  Getting a group to fly low (which they did) to destroy fleets, cities, and the other
targets that are present in game would be a blast!

[Karnak]

Again I reiterate how can a WWII flight SIM/Game not include one of the most important
and widely used aircraft in WWII?  The amount of fun that could be had with the  Beau in the
MA is great.  Getting a group to fly low (which they did) to destroy fleets, cities, and the other
targets that are present in game would be a blast!

I am still willing to escort Beaus in the Mossie.  That did happen on occasion.

[Hajo]

I am still willing to escort Beaus in the Mossie.  That did happen on occasion.

Yes it did!  That is what we can recreate.  I believe at times they were escorted by Mustangs and Spitfires (short range) also.

It would make for a fun event.

[Butcher]

Yes it did!  That is what we can recreate.  I believe at times they were escorted by Mustangs and Spitfires (short range) also.

It would make for a fun event.

We would need a Mustang I with two 50 cals and 4 30 cals.

[SmokinLoon]

I'm sure the Beau will be along in the future, after a Soviet level bomber, the Wellington, the D520, and maybe even after the Ki-100.  Hard telling for sure.   

I know it would be nice to have for PTO scenarios, no doubt.  Seeing these buzzin' around in the MA with Aussie markings would be nice too.

In terms of comparing it to the Mossi, it is slower, carries less ammo (but does have a variant with quad 20mm and quad .50's???), and can carry a torpedo, it really isn't all that different as an attack platform.  The main issue seems to be the extreme need to have an escort fighter while the Mossi can on occasion out run many of the fighters to safety if the conditions are right (sun, moon, and stars all align).

[bozon]

In terms of comparing it to the Mossi, it is slower, carries less ammo (but does have a variant with quad 20mm and quad .50's???), and can carry a torpedo, it really isn't all that different as an attack platform.  The main issue seems to be the extreme need to have an escort fighter while the Mossi can on occasion out run many of the fighters to safety if the conditions are right (sun, moon, and stars all align).

It would probably be sturdier than the mossie, somewhere between the mossie and the A20. I think later beau models carried as much 20mm ammo as the mossie, but I am not sure about that. Beaus can dogfight and like the A20 will probably be able to surprise many late war fighters that will try to slow down and turn with them. Not as good a fighters as the mossie, but then again, many fighters are not as good a fighters as the mossie. The mossie is as fast as an F4U-D on the deck as long as it has its WEP. The Beau will have a much harder time to get out of the fray.

In early and mid war arenas and scenarios it will be good as a bomber hunter and as a strike option when JABOs did not carry that many bombs. True, in late war arena it will be a challenging plane. HOWEVER! 4 hispanos in the nose cannot be ignored!

[Bruv119]

+1 for the BEAU!

[Fish42]

carries less ammo (but does have a variant with quad 20mm and quad .50's???), and can carry a torpedo, it really isn't all that different as an attack platform.

I have seen numbers listed between 240 and 283 RPG for the 20mm in the Beau (belt feed models). Thats a lot more then the mossie can lug around.

[SmokinLoon]

I have seen numbers listed between 240 and 283 RPG for the 20mm in the Beau (belt feed models). Thats a lot more then the mossie can lug around.

Thing is though is HTC going to model the 20mm's with the drums or the belts?  If they model the belts then the Beau will be nearly equal to the Mossi, or maybe even step higher in terms of ammo capacity.

What is your source for the capacity over 240 rds a gun?  The only time I've seen 240 rds a gun on the Beau is when the drums were mentioned and the navigator/radioman/reloader/steward is in play.

[Guppy35]

I'm sure the Beau will be along in the future, after a Soviet level bomber, the Wellington, the D520, and maybe even after the Ki-100.  Hard telling for sure.   

I know it would be nice to have for PTO scenarios, no doubt.  Seeing these buzzin' around in the MA with Aussie markings would be nice too.

In terms of comparing it to the Mossi, it is slower, carries less ammo (but does have a variant with quad 20mm and quad .50's???), and can carry a torpedo, it really isn't all that different as an attack platform.  The main issue seems to be the extreme need to have an escort fighter while the Mossi can on occasion out run many of the fighters to safety if the conditions are right (sun, moon, and stars all align).

Actually one of it's attributes, in particular in the PTO was it's speed on the deck.  As it flew in the ETO, MTO, PTO, and CBI it was everywhere and in numbers.  It would have far more use in scenarios then the Mossie actually as the Mossie was not nearly as involved in the PTO and CBI or MTO for that matter.

That it could lug bombs, rockets or a torp along with the heavy cannon would make it useful too.  Considering the length of it's service too, it ought to get here before any of those you mentioned as well.

[Fish42]

Thing is though is HTC going to model the 20mm's with the drums or the belts?  If they model the belts then the Beau will be nearly equal to the Mossi, or maybe even step higher in terms of ammo capacity.

What is your source for the capacity over 240 rds a gun?  The only time I've seen 240 rds a gun on the Beau is when the drums were mentioned and the navigator/radioman/reloader/steward is in play.

http://www.wlu.ca/lcmsds/cmh/back%20issues/CMH/volume%204/Issue%202/Brown%20-%20Indian%20days%20and%20Burmese%20Nights%20-%20Flying%20Beaufighters%20in%20Southeast%20Asia%20with%20177%20RAF%20Squadron.pdf

On page 19 he talks about using all 250 RPG.

I have seen numbers all around this in other sources.  Also 1000rpg for the 303s have been mentioned too. so if these numbers are right... thats 1000 20mm rounds and 6000 303 rounds. But I need to find the old documents that show that (I am at work so not able to search easy).