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Offline Anaxogoras

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Fuel Burn
« on: January 03, 2009, 12:57:53 AM »
Who's idea was it to punish me with 2.0 fuel burn? :P  I skipped the AvA tonight and went to the main arena instead.

More fuel burn = more time spent climbing out.
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Offline Shane

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2009, 02:01:00 AM »
Quote from: Anaxogoras on January 03, 2009, 12:57:53 AM
Who's idea was it to punish me with 2.0 fuel burn? :P  I skipped the AvA tonight and went to the main arena instead.

More fuel burn = more time spent climbing out.

how you you figure?  because you have to burn fuel some off?  take less and fly lower?  The map bases are standard ma distances sort of, so yeah unless everyone tears a beeline off the deck, fights will be at a more varied alt.  nothing wrong with that.

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Offline Dawger

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2009, 06:26:01 AM »
I just took off from a rear base as normal and spent the first 10 minutes enjoying the trip. The AvA was better than average last night.
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Offline Odee

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2009, 08:55:21 AM »
LA has around 20 minutes at 100% fuel...  More weight, less turn, climb, fight time.

Yak has around 25 minutes at 75%

P38 with 50% has 20 +/-5 minutes flight...

By the time you reach a comparable altitude where you can compete effectively against the LW 109 and 190, you have maybe 5 to 10  minutes flight time.

Shall I go on?
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Offline republic

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2009, 09:45:01 AM »
Sauce for the goose...

The concern for fuel adds a nice addition of realism to our little cartoon game.

It's just one week...surely we can all survive.  :)
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Offline Shane

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2009, 10:06:26 AM »
Quote from: Odee on January 03, 2009, 08:55:21 AM
LA has around 20 minutes at 100% fuel...  More weight, less turn, climb, fight time.

Yak has around 25 minutes at 75%

P38 with 50% has 20 +/-5 minutes flight...

By the time you reach a comparable altitude where you can compete effectively against the LW 109 and 190, you have maybe 5 to 10  minutes flight time.

Shall I go on?

Uhhh, LW rides are more thirsty than their US counterparts and comparable to UK/VVS.  I've seen mostly US v LW with a smattering of spits and vvs stuff.   IJN v Allies has mostly been withering on the vine.

The underlying gripe is really distances more than anything, and like I said prior, higher alt fights aren't necessarily a bad thing.
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Offline Anaxogoras

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2009, 10:19:32 AM »
Quote from: republic on January 03, 2009, 09:45:01 AM
It's just one week...surely we can all survive.  :)

The last setup had 2x fuel burn, also.

All I'm saying is that the lack of 2x fuel burn was appealing to me and was one of the things I liked about the AvA.  Cutting fuel in half works well for the US rides, which seem to be the standard for doing so in the main arena, but for the VVS, British and German aircraft it is too severe.  Wouldn't 1.5 be a nice compromise for the AvA?
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Offline republic

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2009, 11:01:22 AM »
As generally a LW pilot, I feel your pain.  :)  However, the fuel burn was changed to 2.0 , I believe, because someone asked to try it that way.  I'm sure they'll change it back again if enough people ask them.

Personally I don't mind it.  It discourages running and also makes the less popular planes suddenly more attractive.
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Offline Larry

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2009, 11:14:59 AM »
Um 2.0 fuel burn really isn't a problem with LW rides. Last night I was only upping with 75% fuel in my G14 and not having any problem with range. Mainly because I wasn't climbing to 25K to dive in on the fight. If that is your way then I suggest 100% and DT and not WEPing the whole way. Kinda like they did back in the real war.
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Offline Odee

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2009, 08:33:01 PM »
Quote from: Larry on January 03, 2009, 11:14:59 AM
...Mainly because I wasn't climbing to 25K to dive in on the fight. If that is your way then I suggest 100% and DT and not WEPing the whole way. Kinda like they did back in the real war.
This is true Larry.  The other night I found you at 13k instead of 25k.  thought it was AkAk at first.
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Offline Larry

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2009, 10:48:35 PM »
13K? I dont remember climbing that high in the past week except when jg54 did a ju88 raid.
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Offline republic

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2009, 12:39:00 PM »
I dunno larry, you were doing about 310 diving down at me from like 12k in your Tiger last night...  You altmonkey tiger tard.  Then you completely HO'ed my panzer.  :(

Altmonkey HO'ing Tiger Tard...

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Offline Larry

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2009, 01:41:46 PM »
Naw my best speed was about 183MPH in my panzer. Best part was the Evil Knievel jumps. I think I could have cleared ten panzers end to end with one jump.  :D
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Offline B4Buster

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2009, 03:08:28 PM »
LOL Larry, I was watching you roll down the hill, At first I thought you were an M3 or something until I looked closer, you were definately hauling  :lol
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Offline Krusty

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Re: Fuel Burn
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2009, 04:49:10 PM »
just as an fyi, 109s have about 25 mins on full internal fuel at 2.0, fw190s have about 30 mins, that's not counting the 50% increase in consumption while running WEP for 10 minutes.

Just seems to me folks learned to pull a gamey super-tight reversal manuver, turn, or split-S, in a hurr1 with 25% fuel, but don't know how to do much else when the plane actually has a realistic weight. (substitute plane of choice for that analogy)

Lotta the baby seals in HTH had the same problems. No fuel burn, ulimited ammo, F3 view, almost none of them ever learned to fly under real conditions.


Surely that's not a problem for you seasoned AvA pilots, right?
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