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[Kostic]

See this idea I proposed a couple months ago, similar concept to minimum sortie rank but a little more forgiving.  Most people would rather bash me for trying to come up with a good idea than actually get anything that is broken fixed. 
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,250509.0.html

I would like to see the other pilots rank taken into consideration for kill points. Killing a 2 week noob should not produce the same numbers as killing SkyRock, Lusche, Kazza or pick your favorite vet.


Kostic

[Ack-Ack]

I would like to see the other pilots rank taken into consideration for kill points. Killing a 2 week noob should not produce the same numbers as killing SkyRock, Lusche, Kazza or pick your favorite vet.


Kostic

AW's system was like that.  Even factored in vulches...the more you repeatedly killed a player, the less points he was worth.  Funny thing is, only AW's score system was visible to players, the rank system was only visible with AWAR game master commands.


ack-ack

[Lusche]

EW is even more extreme in that matter. See #1 in EW tour 107. 2 sorties in fighter mode was all that was needed. That's a result of low player numbers in EW, the balancing effect of having too few kill points simply isn't there in such a small arena.

[Kostic]

EW is even more extreme in that matter. See #1 in EW tour 107. 2 sorties in fighter mode was all that was needed. That's a result of low player numbers in EW, the balancing effect of having too few kill points simply isn't there in such a small arena.

Yeah, so basically the guy puts in 2 sorties in fighter, does all his other flying in attack to preserve his fighter cause he is #1 position. The whole tour he is watching..making sure no one is sneaking up on his hard earned #1. Well the solution to that is simple go in there on the last night of the tour and snatch it at the last possible moment.

Kositc

[1Boner]

This discussion (witch hunt) seems to pop up every month when the new standings are posted.

It seems likes its main participants are always the guys who say that score doesn't matter.

If it doesn't matter, then why bring it up?

If those guys wanna game the game to get low scores, who cares?

Some guys enjoy chasing a low score,and for the most part we all know who they are.

Let them enjoy the game the way they want and ignore the score page if it bothers you so much.

[Lusche]

Yeah, so basically the guy puts in 2 sorties in fighter, does all his other flying in attack to preserve his fighter cause he is #1 position. The whole tour he is watching..making sure no one is sneaking up on his hard earned #1. Well the solution to that is simple go in there on the last night of the tour and snatch it at the last possible moment.

Kositc

 21 kills per hour and 31 hit % are to be beaten. Almost impossible, you'd need extraordinary luck for that... or a willing squadmate...

And that's the way shade vulchers (for rank purposes) in EW have adapted. Excessive kills on same player are easily detected now, but it's sufficient to kill a friend 13 times in fighter mode, and then 600 more kills on other players in attack mode. Almost impossible to detect, unless someone  watched the stats very carefully at the beginning of a tour

[grizz441]

I would like to see the other pilots rank taken into consideration for kill points. Killing a 2 week noob should not produce the same numbers as killing SkyRock, Lusche, Kazza or pick your favorite vet.


Kostic

Yeah but that's impossible to take into effect since the most skilled pilots never have a good rank.  In sports a win against the yankees is worth the same as a win against the devil rays.  If I was an expert programmer and HTC gave me reigns of the scoring system, I'd have a better system in place that everyone would be pleased with, even Guppy! 

21 kills per hour and 31 hit % are to be beaten. Almost impossible, you'd need extraordinary luck for that... or a willing squadmate...

And that's the way shade vulchers (for rank purposes) in EW have adapted. Excessive kills on same player are easily detected now, but it's sufficient to kill a friend 13 times in fighter mode, and then 600 more kills on other players in attack mode. Almost impossible to detect, unless someone  watched the stats very carefully at the beginning of a tour

That's why you need a minimum missions formula such as this (excuse for another cheap pitch for my idea  )
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,250509.0.html

They'd be forced to fly more missions and if they wanted to keep up their stupid ratios they'd have to shade vulch a lot more and then you'd be able to see it in the new player stats.

[Lusche]

If those guys wanna game the game to get low scores, who cares?

For example the guys that do play the scoring game in a honest way?
And even if you don't care for score yourself doesn't mean you don't care for someone setting bad examples.

[Treize69]

In sports a win against the yankees is worth the same as a win against the devil rays.

Except that last year saying you beat the Yankees didn't mean squat.  

[Kostic]

This discussion (witch hunt) seems to pop up every month when the new standings are posted.

It seems likes its main participants are always the guys who say that score doesn't matter.

If it doesn't matter, then why bring it up?

If those guys wanna game the game to get low scores, who cares?

Some guys enjoy chasing a low score,and for the most part we all know who they are.

Let them enjoy the game the way they want and ignore the score page if it bothers you so much.

You obviously havent been paying attention or worse didn't give anyone enough respect to actually read thier posts. This isnt a witch hunt. Members are simply bring up issues they have with the score system, not individual players.

Kostic

[Kostic]

21 kills per hour and 31 hit % are to be beaten. Almost impossible, you'd need extraordinary luck for that... or a willing squadmate...

And that's the way shade vulchers (for rank purposes) in EW have adapted. Excessive kills on same player are easily detected now, but it's sufficient to kill a friend 13 times in fighter mode, and then 600 more kills on other players in attack mode. Almost impossible to detect, unless someone  watched the stats very carefully at the beginning of a tour

That might be true, but he only flew for 36 minutes. For 2.7 kills per minute a total of 13 kills . I'm saying you could put in full nights work and beat that through volume.

Kostic

[1pLUs44]

You guys talking about Biggamer's rank from Tour 106?  

If you are, you have to realize what type of player you are talking about.  He was caught a few months ago vulching shade accounts with Dextur and Axer to get top scores in the MW arena and he's just found another way to game the score/rank system.  Though, he will deny it to high heaven that he doesn't play for score/rank, his actions speak the opposite.  He craves the validation and *giggle* respect that comes with being a good stick, of which he'll never receive through normal game play because he lacks the skills to acheive no higher than being a mediocre player.  He feels that if he can somehow show he's #1 in the MW, he'll get the accolades he so craves but doesn't realize that the route he takes to acheive that 'Experten' status will be forever tarnished because he had to game his way to the top.

So what does he do now to acheive the top spot?  He'll only engage in fighter sorties where he has a high probability of a kill without any risks (i.e. vulching, shooting down bombers) and after a handful of sorties, he will then score all of his flights under 'Attack' to prevent his fighter score from taking a hit when he routinely gets his arse handed back to him by the most average player.

Basically, he's a kid looking for love in all the wrong places.  


ack-ack

Always obvious when you see someone playing for score. 2 or 3 fighter sorties and 10-30 kills always show who "doesn't care" for score... 

Edit, just took a peak, biggamer kilt some fella named land2 10 times. Also kilt Seadog36 26 or 27 times in a Lanc.

[BigPlay]

Why does anyone care if their gaming the game for score. The score thing is stupid anyway. People know who the good sticks are and score doesn't tell that. So I say let the building killers kill their buildings.

[Ack-Ack]

Well the solution to that is simple go in there on the last night of the tour and snatch it at the last possible moment.

Kositc

You'd have to resort to the same tactics to do it.  The slime would be impossible to wash off afterwards.


ack-ack