HEHE that is annoying, killed by a bush. What I don't understand is like yesterday i put 2 x 500# bombs right on top of player Amreos' flak wagon and didnt even smoke him, so i come around in my p38 and from 700-500 yds out place 50% of my rockets direct hits on him and still no kill (can see the hit sprites). So I figure ok, must be connection proplem somewhere. Fly off next sortie and get 3 m16s in a row with 1-2 rockets per vehicle, makes no sense. Like the b17 i chased in a extended dive with my yak9 at near 500 in a dive and he does a split S and flies home just over the ocean waves. Makes me really wonder about program security.