AMD Phenom II = Loser

[Fulmar]

yesterday Intel was in the $14 range per share AMD $2.22... EEEEK

Apples to Oranges.  Like Google trades at $3xx a share and Exxon the world's largest company by revenue trades at $75.

[drdeathx]

I found this at the Official Internet Hardware Review site:

The Bomb... Intel Core I7
................ Intel Core2Duo
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Stink Bomb... AMD Phenom

It's official.

The official?? Are you officially declaring them the official??? Who is the official? Do we have an official review? Officially speaking, who is the officiial of the official reviewer? Let's review this again.... OOOPs its an official review again!



 

[drdeathx]

Apples to Oranges.  Like Google trades at $3xx a share and Exxon the world's largest company by revenue trades at $75.

Now I am real confused
 


Bongaroo, when the Phenom 9650 and 9850 came out the price was lower than Intel. Memory serves me correct 9850 was $235 then 3 months later was $175. Q6660 was $275 then went to $199. So at the time it was a same situation as the new Phenoms. Intel outperformed AMD lower priced. These guys look at raw statistics which they should. If I were to do it all over again, I would have gone Intel although I am very happy with my AMD 9850. Seems AMD bashers just like drama but AMD needs to get it goin or they may not be around and to keep Intel's pricing where it needs to be . If AMD goes away you will see pricing at a premium.

[Ack-Ack]

So, I guess you tested it with only your PC titles an MMO games thus not seeing any vista issues. There are still vista issues out there although seems they have rectified some of them. The 3650 really did  not outperform the 2600.

And like most things, your guess would be incorrect.  Our hardware testing methods go beyond game compatibility and our TQA department works closely with both ATI and Nvidia engineers during the testing period.



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[drdeathx]

See Rule #2

[Animl]

AMD is still competition.  Not everyone is willing to pay 200-1300$ for a CPU.

If you're a gamer $200 is a drop in the bucket. I never buy the newest fastest anything. I always buy 1-2 steps behind and get it dirt cheap. Heck, you can go out an buy an "old used" tower with a Pent 2-3g with 1g mem for about $200, that will pull this game easy as long as the graphics card is decent. Just switch your hardware over.

AH does NOT require a monster computer, it just has to be setup\streamlined for gaming, I ran AH on a PIII 450 not great but it ran just good enough to fly. I think Grim or Jordie did that too, just for giggles and to make a point.

I have never once bought a packaged computer, they always seem to have 2nd-last self items in them. Some over stock they bought of something that didn't sell on the shelves.

I'm not *buying* another AMD until they get their ducks in a row. They are starting to remind me of 3dfx cards, who btw don't exist anymore. <shrug>

That said, if we're talking package new, affordability is a justifiable issue to consider.

[drdeathx]

If you're a gamer $200 is a drop in the bucket. I never buy the newest fastest anything. I always buy 1-2 steps behind and get it dirt cheap. Heck, you can go out an buy an "old used" tower with a Pent 2-3g with 1g mem for about $200, that will pull this game easy as long as the graphics card is decent. Just switch your hardware over.

AH does NOT require a monster computer, it just has to be setup\streamlined for gaming, I ran AH on a PIII 450 not great but it ran just good enough to fly. I think Grim or Jordie did that too, just for giggles and to make a point.

I have never once bought a packaged computer, they always seem to have 2nd-last self items in them. Some over stock they bought of something that didn't sell on the shelves.

I'm not *buying* another AMD until they get their ducks in a row. They are starting to remind me of 3dfx cards, who btw don't exist anymore. <shrug>

That said, if we're talking package new, affordability is a justifiable issue to consider.

There is a handful of us who use Phenom processors and we have absolutlely no problems. I haven't seen anyone complain about them. Aces High is not like "Crysis" or games that are highly CPU and Graphic intensive. Any Phenom will work perfectly with AH. If I were a benchmarker or played these CPU intensive games I would definitely spend more and go with the i7 series. All these guys are all over how badly Intel outperforms AMD and like AMD makes a CPU that is slow. There's no truth to this but with these processor speeds(Duo and Quad) Intel is just faster than AMD plain and simple. AMD is slower by the comparisons only. These Phenoms perform nicely and are MORE THAN ADEQUATE for the average user. Some reviews act like the Phenoms are slow as a 10 year old processor which is far from the truth. The readers buy into this. With the future technology, faster systems can be a better choice in the long run. The Phenom and Phenom II series will handle just about anything out there. Is it as fast as Intel? NO. In most applications, the average end user probably wouldn't see a difference.The performance on AMD's compared processor to Intels is basically the same. The 940 really has the same numbers as the Q9400 and in some cases better numbers. It does lack a tad compared to the Q9400 in programs like photoshop but it will run these programs nicely. Make no mistake, AMD makes a nice product and is priced right.