During black-outs the pilot should not be able to ...

[airspro]

Originally posted by Swager:
Hey Fester, Thanks!  I didn't even think about hitting "X" and leveling out when I'm in blackout!   Cool!


...and Swagger adds another technique to his ACM skills!

 

Better wait till the wind noise dies down first Swagger , lol , or your wings will come off most likly  

[Montezuma]

I don't know Verm, I took a AT6 flight alo and I don't think they would let you pull 6Gs, or enough to seriously black out.  

AH is too easy this way.  I think you should have very little control input while blacked out, and being able to turn on the autopilot to avoid augering is just BS.

 

Originally posted by Vermillion:
When I flew the AT6 Texan, during one manuver my vision went completely black for several seconds, and in several others I got moderate tunnel vision, and I never lost "feel" or control of the aircraft.

Just my real life experience.

[AKWarp]

Based on my personal flying experience (pitts s2, steen skybolt, BD-5 and F-4 Phantom), the blackout in AH comes on too quickly (almost instantaneous, actually).

It is quite possible to pull upwards of 8G's and not blackout, as long as the G's are not held too long.  Also, the amount of time in which you load the G's onto the airframe is another factor.  Snap it hard into 8 G's, yes, black out, but bring on 8 G's gradually and blackout should not occur for a few seconds.

[Roadkill]

What AKWarp and Fester Said!

This was one of my biggest complaints since AH came out: the G blackout modeling is really bad. I too used to fly Pitts S2 aerobatics and had no problem at all sustaining 5-6 gs with no blackout tendency at all. Even rapid G onset during a square loop was no prob. Oh, maybe a little gray after 20 min of "head-banging", but never a blackout vision condition. Now, I'm only 5'9", and lift weights and run, etc., so I tended to be a little better off than the big guys, but I don't recall anyone I flew with having any G-LOC problems.

HiTec and the gang don't seem to realize that young pilots who are "G-tolerant", i.e., they do it everyday - like in WWII, can REALLY pull the Gs without problems. This 4.5 G blackout is why I don't fly AH much at all, in fact, I was getting ready to cancel my account when the price dropped, so now I just screw around on occasion.

The blackout should be moved up to the 6g level as a minimum.

[BOOT]

From a guy who wishes he could just sit in the cockpit of an AT-6 or a Pitts...
 
The blackout model in AH is so far superior to what AW had...  I have been delighted with it...

However, being a realism freak... I would REALLY like to see it modeled as close as it can to reality... A lot of the attraction and addiction of WW2 Combat Sims to me, is that I hope to get at least a bit of the feeling of what it was like to fly these beautiful birds...
This is without a doubt the closest I will ever get to flying in this fashion...  I want the experience to be as realistic as it can possibly be...

BOOT