Spixteens

[CAP1]

The Spit-16. The biggest, "you fly it I dont and your a dweeb and you suck" airplane we got.

Actually maybe I should fly it more. Its a great airplane, tho you run the risk of a 16yo calling you a "skill-less dweeb".

Boy theres an awful lot of kills in it for nobody to ever fly it.

out of all the spits, i've only flown the 5, 9, and 16. i like the 5 and 9 much more.

[CAP1]

Before the 16 it was the La7.

Something else I've learned in AH over the years is that even the oldest of players often sound like a "16yo".

and now it's the 38J according to that dude in the other thread. 

[Anaxogoras]

and now it's the 38J according to that dude in the other thread. 

That was the best troll ever.

[Stang]

Why do people fly them so much? I can't stand the sight of one. It disgusts me that such a plane can exist in the world of AH. They are so Uber, that they change the tide of battle with just one in the area. The funny part is, they are usually flown by the noobs, but there are still some dweebs out there that fly these all the time! I will never fly that plane unless i absolutely have too, just because I feel dirty after I do. Its OK to fly them every once in a while, but to fly them every other sortie? Why do they do this anyway? Is it fun to know that you are in an Uber plane that nothing else can touch unless you REALLY screw up? I don't find it fun to fly in such a plane that is that easy to get kills.

Whine over 

If they are always flown by noobs and they are still spanking you I suggest visiting the TA.  You are probably the noob, not them.

[Bronk]

Well TY Bronk. I never thought I was too good at it, but if ya want I'll meet you in the TA and show you how. We'll have you out of that spit in no time 

FM-2 is more my speed P-51 is way too fast for me.
You should stick with the 51... ya need all the run speed you can get.

[whels]

Anaxogoras,
what speeds do u have for spit16?  people keep saying its speed, you seem to think its a
fast plane.  Well its not, it is in the slower 1/3 of planes otd, last i checked it  325 mph. It only
gets to 365 or so @ 20k. a good 2/3s of the plane set out pace it easy.

Here's a new list sorted with these modifiers.  Once speed is weighted more heavily, the La-7 moves up, but weighting speed at higher altitudes would not reflect the main arena.

2.00    Speed ASL   
1.50    <10kSpeed   
0.25>  10kSpeed   
1.50    ClimbASL   
1.00    10k Climb   
.25      15k Climb   
1.00    Turn-Rate   
0.75    No Flaps   
0.75    Flaps   
1.75    PrimLethality   
1.75    2ndLethality   
.5       tPrim   
.5       t2nd   
1        mvPrim   
1        mv2nd   
1.25    Flight Time   
0.25    Ordinance   
1.50    Roll   
0.25    CPVis   
0.75    DiveAccel   
1.00    EgRet   
1.50    200-300   

Total   22.00


Tempest   0.72
F4U-4   0.60
Spit XIV   0.60
Spit XVI   0.54
F4U-1C   0.47
LA7   0.47
P47N   0.46
F4U-1A   0.42
Spit VIII   0.41
190D-9   0.38

[uptown]

FM2!? I've had some great turn fights with Greebo in my 51.You ever want to go mix it up in DA for fun one of these days give me a holla. I love fightin those things. They take one hell of a beatin. 

[Anaxogoras]

Anaxogoras,
what speeds do u have for spit16?  people keep saying its speed, you seem to think its a
fast plane.  Well its not, it is in the slower 1/3 of planes otd, last i checked it  325 mph. It only
gets to 365 or so @ 20k. a good 2/3s of the plane set out pace it easy.

Both gonzo's site and HTC shows the Spit at ~344mph at seal level, and at 20k it does over 400mph.

[SlapShot]

That was the best troll ever.

Guess you weren't around for the BK MOAT.

[Bronk]

Both gonzo's site and HTC shows the Spit at ~344mph at seal level, and at 20k it does over 400mph.
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On wep... how long is that? How long for cool time? How long a flight time at FFT?

Equate that in.

[CAP1]

That was the best troll ever.

[Spyder]

LOL! This is too funny! the people that agree with clone know what he is talking about, but the people that are getting pissy are the ones that clone is talking about 

[MaSonZ]

The CHog was perked in a world long before the LA7 and SpitXVI horde.  But I'd agree with a perk for those, as well as the Nikki.  Small perk.  Deal with it.  They're overflown and underperked.

maybe a small perk on the la7, more of a perk on the 16 than the la7, but not much, and no perl on the nikki. nikki is like killing any other plane, easy as pie. La7 a good stick makes a hard fight, the spit 16 a noob can be good in it. I don't mean good in able to just dogfight, i mean good enough to come home with 2 or 3 kills rather easy as well as dogfighting in it.

[Clone155]

First off, I could care less about the average noob flying the spit16 for their training, my first kill was in a ponyB, so I don't wanna here that that thing is like training wheels. And aparently i suck, so if I can do it, the noobs sure can.

Second off, if its like training weels, then why do some vets fly it all the time? That is what im talking about.

For example: You are cruising at 15K, in lets say a 109G14, and there is a spit16 coming in at 20K. Now what? No average noob would take the time to fly to 20K, so it is probobly a vet, and he is coming right at you. And now is were it gets fun, you might actually get on his tail and stay there, but then, ANOTHER spit16 comes in at 10K and jumps in. At best you can shoot one down, but the other is gonna get you, or you might be able to run away.

OK now, im sure there is gonna be someone to tell me how to get out of this situation, and im sure they are gonna note that only the "real pilots" can get out of this situation, so im waiting...

[Bronk]

Perk every aircraft that is better than the FM2!!!

There... that will fix it.