Windows 7

[ROC]

Microsoft Blocks XP-to-Windows 7 Beta Upgrades
The version of Windows 7 Beta 1 that Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT) made available for download on its Technet site Thursday does not support upgrades from systems running its Windows XP operating system, according to a first look at the available code in the CRN Test Center.

It does, however, permit upgrades from Vista SP1 to Windows 7.
http://www.crn.com/software/212701488

So, basically, there are quite a few XP users that think Vista is a bloated pile of sewage, yet we are supposed to Buy Windows 7 if we use XP instead of making sure we like the program first?

Well, I guess that's one way to do it.

Updating all my systems to XP SP3, that'll hold me for a couple of years.  I was really looking forward to trying this version, as my experience with Vista was less than putrid.

[Getback]

Microsoft Blocks XP-to-Windows 7 Beta Upgrades
The version of Windows 7 Beta 1 that Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT) made available for download on its Technet site Thursday does not support upgrades from systems running its Windows XP operating system, according to a first look at the available code in the CRN Test Center.

It does, however, permit upgrades from Vista SP1 to Windows 7.
http://www.crn.com/software/212701488

So, basically, there are quite a few XP users that think Vista is a bloated pile of sewage, yet we are supposed to Buy Windows 7 if we use XP instead of making sure we like the program first?

Well, I guess that's one way to do it.

Updating all my systems to XP SP3, that'll hold me for a couple of years.  I was really looking forward to trying this version, as my experience with Vista was less than putrid.

Skuzzy said somewhere that windows 7 is vista with a paint job. (Hope I didn't misquote you Skuzzy)

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Skuzzy said somewhere that windows 7 is vista with a paint job. (Hope I didn't misquote you Skuzzy)

If Vista wasn't WinME then it probably was at least Win98 -> Win98SE is windows 7. It's basically Vista the way it should have been made in the first place but failed.

It still has same problems as Vista but also some improvements that are said to make it much more appealing than Vista. I downloaded the beta for testing yesterday.

[Animl]

If Vista wasn't WinME then it probably was at least Win98 -> Win98SE is windows 7. It's basically Vista the way it should have been made in the first place but failed.

It still has same problems as Vista but also some improvements that are said to make it much more appealing than Vista. I downloaded the beta for testing yesterday.

It's Vista in shades, and like you said, things added to make an otherwise unappealing OS look appealing again. <g> Unless they *removed* certain things, then it's probably still not going to be a "great" gaming OS.

The thing about XP is it can be stripped down to basically win98 without the 90 crashes per day. That speed on the newer CPUs is where we probably want to be as gamers. If you can afford a monstrous machine to pull Vista and games, then more power to ya.

2 cents

[llama]

Though I have not yet seen this printed anywhere, it seems to me that:

Vista is to Windows 7...

as...

Windows 98 is to Windows 98SE

It seems like basically the same os as the previous edition with significant tweaks and additions to make it more mainstream and appealing.

I still forsee my primary OS being XP for many years...

-Llama

[1azbaer]

I checked the web page  around 11:00 am MST, I was able to down Windows 7 beta and I even got a license key!. Took 20 minutes to install! and it seems really fast. Yes it looks like Vista, in a few places. If your still on XP, you might not like it. As for my self I have XP, Vista and Windows 7 on my drive and so far I'm impressed.
Down loading Aces right now can't wait to try it!

[1azbaer]

So far Microsoft has a good thing going here! if it wasn't for my sidewider steering wheel not being support Xp would be gone and so would Vista! Good enough to drag me away from Linux?  No. The task bar does remind me of KDE4. Aces plays great 

[Nilsen]

Running 7 beta now. So far i like it very much.

Havent installed AH yet, but everything else including drivers for all the components of this laptop works and was found right away. With XP i had to hunt down the drivers for many components but in 7 everything just works right out of the gate. Installation time was 20-30 mins.

Gonna wait a few weeks before i give it the  , but so far im very impressed vs vista and xp

[Bino]

If I can settle down the schedule at my new job, I plan to learn about running Aces High under Linux and Wine.  AH is about the only thing I need Windows for, any more.  If I can get that figured out, then it's buh-bye Billgatezebub.

[Hajo]

When Skuzzy posted in another thread that windows7 is in reality and update on vista he wasn't telling a Fib.

this is imho a service pack for bugs in vista.  Microsoft couldn't sell vista...so they've just given vista a new name.

It's smart marketing....can't sell something? Sell it under another name.  If you are using vista now to use windows7

you of course will have to pay microsoft for that right.

I HAD a brand new laptop that had vista64 on it.  It had problems with my ch controlers, control manager etc.

I am now using to play AH a machine that is using WindowsXP Pro with SP3.

Microsoft can't sell Vista to the majority of business and corporations.  They're now trying to sell Vista as Windows7.

Vista is chielly application software.  We want an operating system not added applications that bog down a system.

[Masherbrum]

When Skuzzy posted in another thread that windows7 is in reality and update on vista he wasn't telling a Fib.

this is imho a service pack for bugs in vista.  Microsoft couldn't sell vista...so they've just given vista a new name.

It's smart marketing....can't sell something? Sell it under another name.  If you are using vista now to use windows7

you of course will have to pay microsoft for that right.

I HAD a brand new laptop that had vista64 on it.  It had problems with my ch controlers, control manager etc.

I am now using to play AH a machine that is using WindowsXP Pro with SP3.

Microsoft can't sell Vista to the majority of business and corporations.  They're now trying to sell Vista as Windows7.

Vista is chielly application software.  We want an operating system not added applications that bog down a system.

What?!!   

Nwxt y9u'll be telling us that the current Ford Taurus used to be the 500!   

 

[drdeathx]

What?!!   

Nwxt y9u'll be telling us that the current Ford Taurus used to be the 500!   

 

What is y9u'll?????

[1azbaer]

Linux note: You need Cedege (transgaming) to get Aces high to work in Linux. Only problem I have is my hat views wont work with my Saitek joystick st280 pro. Other then that i usually get high frame rates in Linux. Works best with PClinuxOS. You need to use engine 6.1.0 in order of it to work but there is a Linux forum.

I think Windows user should embrace windows 7. Unless you have  XP CD you'll have no choice on in building a or downgrading a New PC to XP. Know one knows what will happen if you have to reload XP and if the Windows XP activation will work after 2014.

With all due respect Skuzzy is stuck in the past with Windows 98 (he's tweeking of XP give you the 98 look and feel). 9X, ME, 2000 all all dead and waiting for the wake and grieving to get over with the demise of XP.   Evolve or die, with Windows.

Ultimately embrace freedom choose Linux.   

[Skuzzy]

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With all due respect Skuzzy is stuck in the past with Windows 98 (he's tweeking of XP give you the 98 look and feel). 9X, ME, 2000 all all dead and waiting for the wake and grieving to get over with the demise of XP.   Evolve or die, with Windows.

Ultimately embrace freedom choose Linux.   

ROFL!

Yes, I trim the fat where I can, so shoot me.  I detest operating systems that pretend to be more than just operating systems.  I detest my computer being bogged down for no reason at all.  You like bloatware, then Vista is for you.  Ever heard the phrase that sometimes going forward is a step backward?  Remind me why someone should pay for an operating system that has more documented compatibility problems than any OS Microsoft has released since Windows 95?

Then remind me again, why a Vista owner has to pay to upgrade to Windows 7, which is nothing more than some bug fixes you used to get in a service pack for free?

Now, tell me why this operating system is oh, so much better than its predecessors?  Did you also think Windows ME was moving forward?

The only place I found myself stuck in, is wondering why anyone would actually pay for Vista or Windows 7.  They do not bring anything to the table that you cannot do in XP, and they have the added benefit of not being able to run a bunch of software XP will.

Then again, I am an engineer, and like most engineers, I am content to stay with what works better than what is available to replace it.  Now, other that what the Microsoft marketing machine has spewed forth, what did you offer as fact that Vista/Windows 7 is really a better alternative to XP?  Please, tell me what Earth shattering thing I am missing.  I have Vista on a test machine at the office and it is an abomination.  It does not do anything better than XP, but it does do many things worse.

[AirFlyer]

Using Windows XP 64-bit and I've seen nothing from Vista 32-bit or 64-bit that makes me want to switch over except DirectX 10, but the pros don't come close to outweighing the cons so I'm sticking to XP till MS releases something decent.