Adolf Hitler's cake was taken away

[Angus]

Where I live there are some rules about names. I think they're ok, since some parents are just wayyy toooo thickkk for even handling a name for their own child.
A normal person will probably never notice that there are rules.

[VonMessa]

It would be totally delusional to believe that the Dept. of Children and youth took those children from that home, solely on the basis on the names they were given.

I would, however, suspect that given the fact that they have brought attention to themselves as of late, it raised some eyebrows.  Once you put yourself under a microscope, the flaws are not very hard to find.

I agree that relieving the parents of custody, based entirely on what they have named their children is entirely inappropriate, however I'm sure that there is way more to the story than that.

[warhed]

So we have the right to screw with our children as much as we want, but our children do not have the right to live a normal life with the same opportunities as any other child?

[bongaroo]

So we have the right to screw with our children as much as we want, but our children do not have the right to live a normal life with the same opportunities as any other child?

Bam!  To the heart of the issue.

[Elfie]

Not sure if what they did was legal or correct but man those kids would be in for a hard life.  If a kid growing up in my school was named that and said the wrong thing to me I'd have kicked his butt repeatedly.  Those parents are using thier children for political tools.  In fact the parents are just tools themselves.  Sad.

This says a lot more about you and your character than it does about the kid with a name that had no say in what his name was going to be.

[bongaroo]

If you had family members die in a systematic execution due to their religion you'd have the same opinion.  I've grown a lot since I was a kid but this was and still is a sore subject for me.

I spoke of what I would have probably done as a child if provoked by a child named Adolf Hitler.  Having come a long way since than I know where the blame squarely lies.  The parents.

[Anaxogoras]

I love individual freedoms, but in this case I believe the rights of the children were violated by the parents.

[Angus]

Who wants to be named Adolf Hitler? Raise your hands!
And who wants a sister named Aryan Nation, raise your hands!

Yo, you few there, don't raise your hands THAT way 

[VonMessa]

So we have the right to screw with our children as much as we want, but our children do not have the right to live a normal life with the same opportunities as any other child?

Pretty much, as far is naming them is concerned.

Not saying I am in agreement with, or siding with the parents, but, the way the our laws are, there is nothing precluding them from choosing the names that they did.

There are, however, laws regarding the health and welfare of children, and I suspect that a violation of one of these standards was what legally gave the county/state the right to take the kids away.



Morality cannot always be forced, but in some cases, the loopholes that let the criminals get away with things, also help the law do what is right & proper.

While I can almost guarantee that the kids weren't taken away because the parents gave them the names that they did, I'm sure that a "concerned citizen/neighbor" voiced concerns of some kind regarding the environment that the children were being raised in.  So....  Along comes Mr./Mrs. Health & Welfare officer for an inspection of these allegations, and I'm sure they were none-too-nonchalant when trying to find something that they could use as a reason to take the kids.

I, personally, wouldn't advocate giving a child a moniker that is immediately associated with hatred, etc, but by the same token I cannot back any legislation dictating what names may be used for our kids without being a hypocrite.

The constitution affords us many useful freedoms, and its a fine line we walk.  There will always be folks who push the limit of what is right, decent, or moral while wrapping themselves in the American flag and calling it "exercising their rights" or "enjoying their freedom"

[bongaroo]

I remember reading that Australia allowed a girl to change her name against her parents wishes.  Her name had Hula Hoop somewhere in it.  Couldn't find it with google, anyone know what I'm talking about?

[yankedudel]

I love individual freedoms, but in this case I believe the rights of the children were violated by the parents.

Amen brother!

[warhed]

I laugh at all this talk of having our freedoms taken away.  As if we don't have intrusive laws as it is.  I can't even build a patio in my back yard without going through the proper paperwork, paying the proper fees for permits, etc.  I can't smoke on the beach, I have to wear a seat belt, I can't grow a pot plant in my back yard.  I have to wear a helmet on my motorcycle.  You get the idea.  No one is getting fired up because they get ticketed for not wearing a seat belt, yet 3 children are given clearly racist offensive names that WILL set them back in life, and that's the tipping point? 

[sntslilhlpr6601]

Part of me is like, "Yeah! Stick it to those dumb parents!" and the other other part is like, "What about our rights?"

I just hope they found a legit reason to remove the child.

[hubsonfire]

Does anyone who thinks this is a mistake on the part of the state really believe these kids were going to grow up in a nurturing, healthy environment, in a house decorated with Nazi paraphenalia, with parents who think the systematic elimination of millions of people was a pretty cool gig?

[bongaroo]

Does anyone who thinks this is a mistake on the part of the state really believe these kids were going to grow up in a nurturing, healthy environment, in a house decorated with Nazi paraphenalia, with parents who think the systematic elimination of millions of people was a pretty cool gig?

I can't believe I agree with hubs.  My head almost exploded I think.