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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2009, 05:15:46 AM »
GV icons should be off, 

Don't see why planes should have the benefit of a neon sign when GV's don't on the ground.  They are still easy to spot from the air without it.
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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2009, 05:22:08 AM »
yes Bruv I'd like that to be turned off I mean we GVers hate those carpet bombers :P
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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2009, 05:25:03 AM »
The more people that turn off their icon views the better.. just dont ask me to do the same. Im handicapped enough as it is  :lol

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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2009, 05:30:05 AM »
Nope just turn off Planes capability to see GV's when flying over well they icons atleast  :devil
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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2009, 05:44:30 AM »
ya.....'cause that'd work sooo well for those of us flying on tiny monitors.

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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2009, 06:50:32 AM »
GV icons should be off, 

Don't see why planes should have the benefit of a neon sign when GV's don't on the ground.  They are still easy to spot from the air without it.

Plane icons for GV'ers must be off. Planes are far easily to spot from the ground then GVs from air. :noid
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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2009, 07:07:42 AM »
I wish that too, but i know its only a wish.to see that in the MA Enemy icons off - friendly icons on. The game would improved by 100%

I agree with this.  I think it would add to better SA.  As far as the small monitors, define "tiny".  I flew with a 17" monitor for the last 2 years.  Just upgraded to a 22" flat recently.  Is there a difference in my flying......not that I can tell.  I still die just as easy.  It's just bigger pieces flying off my plane.

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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2009, 07:11:40 AM »


Here is a plane at a mere 300 yards. What is it? Is it friend or foe? Now, think back to any airshow you've been to. You can tell what a plane is from 300 yards with ease. Think about driving down the highway and how far ahead you can tell the difference between cars, trucks, semis, etc. There is no way that no icons on a computer screen is anywhere close to real life capability.

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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2009, 07:21:52 AM »
Enemy Off and Friendly on (long range) isn't much fun. It actually decreases your SA and reaction time in a fight. The Neon is very distracting when in a swirling dogfight with a bandit with no icon and you keep seeing friendly icons that aren't in your fight.

No enemy and short range friendly (400 yards) is the ideal setting with the currently available icon system. I determined this through some fairly scientific analysis. 400 yards is the distance you can read the tail markings on a B17.

As for the monitor not being representative of reality, it is true in a very limited way but it is a lot closer to reality than people care to admit.

The lapse in performance comes between 300 and 1500 yards. All other ranges its darn close to what you would see in real life.

I've done the legwork to prove that to myself.

A new icon system that preserves the nature of real world fights while correcting the limitations of the monitor would be an amazing thing but I don't think there is an impetus to do anything of the sort. Players don't have much interest in that sort of thing.

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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2009, 07:57:02 AM »
A new icon system that preserves the nature of real world fights while correcting the limitations of the monitor would be an amazing...

This I agree with. I've often thought we should get limited info at long range - maybe a "1E" identifying the plane as a single engine type along with "2E" and "4E". You could then progress to plane type etc as range decreased. If you really wanted to get fancy, the range you get the plane type could be dependant on the viewing angle.

You must also consider depth perception. It's impossible to determine if a pixel is moving towards you or away from you while, IRL, it is easy to tell if something is moving towards or away from you from great distances.

There are possibilities besides what we have now, but off is, IMHO, far less realistic than what we have now.

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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2009, 07:58:59 AM »
Lack of icons rewards those with a better computer/higher resolution.

It will never happen, HTC would lose too many customers.

Yeah but only for 1 event, i think it will be fun, more real and will really take team work in communication

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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2009, 08:09:54 AM »
I wish that too, but i know its only a wish.to see that in the MA Enemy icons off - friendly icons on. The game would improved by 100%

ONLY for those of you that can fly on larger monitors. what are those of us that fly on 19" monitors supposed to do? heck, at 1,000 yards, i have to zoom in to see what you're doing. unless i wanna wait till you've already turned into me, at which point it's too late. even at 500 yards, i'm zoomed some to take the shot.

 it's best left as is. if you want icons off, then you can cycle through the options.
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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2009, 08:10:55 AM »
Yeah!  What he said!!!
I've made this very suggestion about a year ago. Here's the problem. The visual in virtual reality is not nearly as good as in reality.
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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2009, 08:21:49 AM »
Hell I'm using a 15" monitor that was given to me an I am zoomed up to about 300-500 yards.  It all depends on the plane type.  And since there is a command to cycle through the icons just turn yours off.
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Re: Turn the icon's off
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2009, 08:29:57 AM »
I've been using a 15" monitor too for the past 1 1/2 years since my previous monitor died, it has maximum resolution of 1024 x 768, woowoo! :D  No zooming in for me though except against gv's, I don't know how people zoom in to aim at aicraft, it feels plane weird for me.
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