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Offline Wingnutt

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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2009, 07:34:08 PM »
:furious  ok ITS 1-17-09  5:06 EASTERN TIME.I JUST FLEW TWO P-38 MISSIONS TO A ROOK BASE TO TAKE OUT THERE ORD.ON THE WAY THERE ON MY FIRST RUN I GOT JUMP BY A SPIT.WOULDNT YOU NO IT. BEFORE I COULD BREAK OFF RIGHT THROUGH THE BACK OF THE HEAD PW.BLOOD ALL OVER THE CANOPY,THEN ON MY SECOUND RUN I FLEW ON THE DECK TO TRY TO GET TO THE ROOK BASE TO TAKE OUT ORD.AND A GAIN THIS TIME A NIKKI. AS HE WAS FIRING ON ME I GOT TO DIVE AND GET SOME SPEED AND AS I STARTED TO TURN RIGHT TO TURN IT GOT ME  PW BLOOD ON CANOPY FROM BEHIND SHOT.THATS NOT REAL...I SHOULD HAVE HAD THE SPEED FOR ONE.SECOUND THE ARMER BUILT INTO THE BACK OF THE P-38 SHOULD,NT HAVE TAKIN ME OUT THAT FAST.... GREAT PLANE BUT THE GAMES SPECKS ARE ALL WRONG.


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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2009, 07:41:19 PM »
:furious  ok ITS 1-17-09  5:06 EASTERN TIME.I JUST FLEW TWO P-38 MISSIONS TO A ROOK BASE TO TAKE OUT THERE ORD.ON THE WAY THERE ON MY FIRST RUN I GOT JUMP BY A SPIT.WOULDNT YOU NO IT. BEFORE I COULD BREAK OFF RIGHT THROUGH THE BACK OF THE HEAD PW.BLOOD ALL OVER THE CANOPY,THEN ON MY SECOUND RUN I FLEW ON THE DECK TO TRY TO GET TO THE ROOK BASE TO TAKE OUT ORD.AND A GAIN THIS TIME A NIKKI. AS HE WAS FIRING ON ME I GOT TO DIVE AND GET SOME SPEED AND AS I STARTED TO TURN RIGHT TO TURN IT GOT ME  PW BLOOD ON CANOPY FROM BEHIND SHOT.THATS NOT REAL...I SHOULD HAVE HAD THE SPEED FOR ONE.SECOUND THE ARMER BUILT INTO THE BACK OF THE P-38 SHOULD,NT HAVE TAKIN ME OUT THAT FAST.... GREAT PLANE BUT THE GAMES SPECKS ARE ALL WRONG.


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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2009, 08:47:35 PM »
Roundeye, someone once told me "The reason for PW beign so common in the 38 is due to its armor around the cockpit. What does it have out front? Guns, not and engine. What does it have behind you? Some armour, not a whole fuselage."
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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2009, 09:01:06 PM »
Yep too Many P-38 PWs :furious. Friend got 7 in 7 sorties. I think the 38 is Cursed
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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2009, 11:40:54 PM »
I rarely ever get them in a P-38
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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2009, 01:45:34 AM »
Yeah, I thought it was just me!

I flew the 38 for a few sorties today. I'd say it was 4 out of 5 sorties where I had to land it with a pilot wound. I know it was my own stupidity to get shot up but it was just odd that they were mostly PWs. I mean, I went in and attacked a formation of Lancs from above - got my underbelly shot at(No more than a few scratches at this point) and as I pass through the box the only damage I took was to the pilot. Strange strange strange.

Although, I still like flying it -- I guess I'll have to bring some body armor next time.  :aok
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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2009, 02:00:09 AM »
Don't get shot at. Problem solved.  :aok
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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2009, 02:28:07 AM »
 I seem to get pilot wounds in 38's more than other plans I fly. But there are planes that are worse as far as pilot wounds go...like planes with red circles on the wings!
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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2009, 09:06:23 AM »
Yeah, I thought it was just me!

I flew the 38 for a few sorties today. I'd say it was 4 out of 5 sorties where I had to land it with a pilot wound. I know it was my own stupidity to get shot up but it was just odd that they were mostly PWs. I mean, I went in and attacked a formation of Lancs from above - got my underbelly shot at(No more than a few scratches at this point) and as I pass through the box the only damage I took was to the pilot. Strange strange strange.

Although, I still like flying it -- I guess I'll have to bring some body armor next time.  :aok

That is what I'm seeing.  It seems like I get an instant PW with very little damage elsewhere.  Compared to my beloved F6F and F4F that gets shot all to pieces....I fly them home streaming oil, fuel, guns shot out, rudder shot off, 1/2 wing missing and no landing gear with 50 holes in the remaining parts and NO PW.  You cannot convince me that the '38 was THAT much weaker in RL.  I know Grumman made a helluva airplane back then, but Lockheed was no noob to the industry.  The plane's record speaks for itself.  It was not known as a deathtrap.

I'm not that concerned about the lack of an engine in front to protect me, because that only comes into play during a HO situation, which will get you shot in the FACE no matter what you fly.  It's the rear and deflection shots.  In which case the 38 seems to have comparable armor like the other acft have.  Having a tail section behind the cockpit is only a layer of aluminum....not much for stopping bullets (look at the number of casualties inside bombers).....its the armor that matters.  The 38 has comparable armor, so why all the PWs?  I believe it's time to look at the damage model IMO. 

The P-38 is a wonderful airplane that can an has served many roles.  Not many planes can carry that much ordinance along with the capability to fight its way out of a mess.  The extra engine has saved many souls as well.  It's Achilles' heel in this game is it's fragile cockpit.  I think it needs evaluating.

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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2009, 09:15:23 AM »
Double post :o
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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2009, 09:16:37 AM »
Well im not sure how you fly the 38 but you can't stick your nose at planes like others. Think about it your higher then the fuselage. Not much protection up there.

Also think that sould be a stat when flying the 38 :D

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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2009, 09:31:14 AM »
Well im not sure how you fly the 38 but you can't stick your nose at planes like others. Think about it your higher then the fuselage. Not much protection up there.

Also think that sould be a stat when flying the 38 :D

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Roger that.  I try not to stick my nose at planes no matter what I fly, unless I am at a severe disadvantage like being low/slow or if I'm in a Mossie or 110 against a superior fighter.   In that case, If somone continues to fly toward me, then I take that as an acceptance to the HO.  It usually does not turn out well for someone trying to HO a pile of cannons with wings. :D

I'm more concerned with the rear and deflection shots in a 38, which seems to have comparable armor in these places, yet recieve a higher number of PWs for some reason (in this game). :salute
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Re: P38s and pilot wounds
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2009, 12:23:59 PM »
Well I think for the same reason. With the engines on the wings and the spit tail. Most people shoot for the center of the plane, so that's why you would get more PW's in 38's. I seam to get more now from Puffy ack :furious


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