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Offline FALCONWING

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Re: All hail...
« Reply #105 on: January 18, 2009, 02:20:23 PM »

My interpretation is that one "style" of gameplay is as valid as another, until they are taken to the extreme and start harming overall gameplay.


Your interpretation is correct imho....

I'm sure folks will miss that HTC felt Laz's pure furballing world was excessive as well...my point remains that how do 30 guys running an noe in an arena with 300-450 in it ruin gameplay for these l33ts?  If anything it diversifies it....
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Re: All hail...
« Reply #106 on: January 18, 2009, 02:33:59 PM »

Your interpretation is correct imho....

I'm sure folks will miss that HTC felt Laz's pure furballing world was excessive as well...my point remains that how do 30 guys running an noe in an arena with 300-450 in it ruin gameplay for these l33ts?  If anything it diversifies it....

I didn't miss it.

I agree with HiTechs assessment and always have.

Find me one post where I have ever said that base taking is "wrong" and shouldn't be done.

If I had to lump myself in any one "group" it would be a landgrabber over a furballer, but I enjoy both styles and when the two can be combined I am the most pleased.

What I don't "get" is how HiTech can put down in black and white what your squad did was "extreme" and "detrimental" to the game and you  can not see how this current crop of people are doing exactly what the BOPs did?!?!

Is 30 people running constant NOE's at undefended bases in a 300 person arena somehow differnet than 80 in an 800 person arena like what you and yours were doing?

Explain THAT one to me.
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Re: All hail...
« Reply #107 on: January 18, 2009, 02:40:11 PM »
I'm sure folks will miss that HTC felt Laz's pure furballing world was excessive as well...

They shouldn't.  I pulled those two quotes specifically to show it applies both ways.

There is a fundamental difference between the two though.  Furballers do not enforce their style of gameplay in a pratical manner on others.  They just "talk".  Landgrabbers not only affect the prospects of a furball friendly environment, but at times specifically go out of their way to shut down furballs with the attitude that they are entitled to force players to contribute to the "war effort" instead of furballing.

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Re: All hail...
« Reply #108 on: January 18, 2009, 02:49:38 PM »
They shouldn't.  I pulled those two quotes specifically to show it applies both ways.

There is a fundamental difference between the two though.  Furballers do not enforce their style of gameplay in a pratical manner on others.  They just "talk".  Landgrabbers not only affect the prospects of a furball friendly environment, but at times specifically go out of their way to shut down furballs with the attitude that they are entitled to force players to contribute to the "war effort" instead of furballing.
IE..taking tanktown bases and insisting to your fellow countrymen that resourses are "waisted" and not going to "much more productive war winning" base taking.
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Re: All hail...
« Reply #109 on: January 18, 2009, 02:55:14 PM »
maybe u guys should be looking at the defenders.

the amount of times i find one of these missions 25miles out, yet 5minutes later im still the only defender.... i find a good defence is much more fun than almost anything.
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Re: All hail...
« Reply #110 on: January 18, 2009, 03:01:24 PM »

There are some things that can offset the increasing mindset of horde mongering.

1) .......
10) .......
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11) remove the perk reward for resets.

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Re: All hail...
« Reply #111 on: January 18, 2009, 03:02:50 PM »
11) remove the perk reward for resets.



I Personally agrre with this statement.  I don't understand why they ever implemented this.  All it does is rewards EVERYone from the war-winning country.  :huh
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Re: All hail...
« Reply #112 on: January 18, 2009, 03:05:32 PM »
I Personally agrre with this statement.  I don't understand why they ever implemented this.  All it does is rewards EVERYone from the war-winning country.  :huh

Actually, believe it or not....there was a time when "winning the war" was not a priority. Go figure.  :rolleyes:

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Re: All hail...
« Reply #113 on: January 18, 2009, 03:07:37 PM »
The only good thing that comes out of "winning the war" is a new map.  But with the large maps theres rarely ever a "reset" due to the winning of the war.  Which leaves those "win t3h w4r!!!" type of players to continue trying to win a war that really can't be won   :D
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Re: All hail...
« Reply #114 on: January 18, 2009, 03:11:36 PM »
They will do that anyway. It's the "dead horse" they refuse to walk away from.

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Re: All hail...
« Reply #115 on: January 18, 2009, 03:12:34 PM »
True.  What if the war never really could be won?  What would happen then?
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Re: All hail...
« Reply #116 on: January 18, 2009, 03:22:58 PM »
What if the war never really could be won?

That is what we have currently.
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Re: All hail...
« Reply #117 on: January 18, 2009, 03:28:32 PM »
That is what we have currently.

We won in blue saturday morning.

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Re: All hail...
« Reply #118 on: January 18, 2009, 03:28:51 PM »
True.  What if the war never really could be won?  What would happen then?
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Re: All hail...
« Reply #119 on: January 18, 2009, 03:44:04 PM »
We won in blue saturday morning.

odd, I coulda sworn I was on last night and the war was still going on...
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