Author Topic: Me 262 vs Me 262 | Me 262 vs Ar234 (Read 547 times)

Qnm · « **Reply #15 on:** October 08, 2001, 11:32:00 AM »

Then AH should not be.
What about Pacific Navy planes fighting German planes?
Or 109s escorting B17s?
Or the "don't move your controls so rapidly" also affecting 262 pilots; who did not have to deal with this in WWII?

Vermillion · « **Reply #16 on:** October 08, 2001, 12:20:00 PM »

Actually contrary to popular belief, the P80 DID fly combat missions during WWII in the Med.

It just never encountered any enemy aircraft.

Funked has the details, if you want specifics.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #17 on:** October 08, 2001, 02:06:00 PM »

Oh verm, 3 planes doing sightseeing and a show and tell for the troops in Italy is not combat.....

R4M · « **Reply #18 on:** October 08, 2001, 02:43:00 PM »

even a He162A would be more correct in AH than a Meteor, or of course a P-80. See, the Salamander at least got one air to air kill while the rest were looking for V-1s or doing some touristic flights over Italy

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Seeker · « **Reply #19 on:** October 08, 2001, 02:53:00 PM »

Considering more bombs fell on Germany than V1 did on Britain, I'd say the Meteor was just a tad more successfull, wouldn't you?

Deutchland uber alles, as you lot so like to imply.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #20 on:** October 08, 2001, 07:02:00 PM »

LOL you meteor fanatics are stupid if you think unescorted unarmed unmanuvering drones flying at low alt on a constant heading with no ability to defend itself are the same as hordes of heavy bombers with thousands of machine guns and hundreds of escorts.

Anyway go ahead and think meteor did anything useful in the war, I know its false you know its false, but if it makes you feel better...........

Midnight · « **Reply #21 on:** October 08, 2001, 07:18:00 PM »

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Originally posted by rammjagr:
Midnight, time to remove your head from your %#!. P-51 getting shot down by a P-51 is not much different from a P-51 getting shot down by a FW-190D, very similar flight envelopes. This has been my point all along..... <sigh>

What does a percentage number (%#) have to do with a P-51 shooting down a P-51?

Your argument is basically saying that because you are in a "unique" plane that is fast and has big guns, you should be invonerable to another plane with the same characteristics.

Are you are expecting a game consession to compensate for your lack of skill and SA?

Pull your head from your imaginary world and just be happy that the 262 costs 200 perks.

SunKing · « **Reply #22 on:** October 08, 2001, 07:51:00 PM »

forget the jets, bring the Stuka and BF-100 to AH! Time to fill in gaps and bring the senario planes to the game.

rammjagr · « **Reply #23 on:** October 09, 2001, 12:58:00 AM »

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Are you are expecting a game consession to compensate for your lack of skill and SA?

LOL Midnight. That's me, lack of skill and SA...... LOL

Karnak · « **Reply #24 on:** October 09, 2001, 01:23:00 AM »

GRUNHERZ,

It isn't "Meteor fanatics" that are distorting things, its "German fanatics" who distort anything they can to build up the super human image for the Germans.

I think that the people that didn't have V-1s land on them because a Meteor shot it down would disagree with your assesment of its contribution.

I'm not keen on seeing the Meteor in AH, but lets try to use some balance in our views.

Was the Meteor used? Clearly, yes.

Was the Meteor as important as the Me262? Clearly, no.

To dismiss it because it didn't actually kill any enemy airmen is silly.

Staga · « **Reply #25 on:** October 09, 2001, 02:30:00 AM »

Seeker looks like ppl doesn't bite your bait.
Better luck next time with your trolls

Seeker · « **Reply #26 on:** October 09, 2001, 03:27:00 AM »

Be fair, Staga, you have to use some real smelly stuff when you go fishing for bottom feeders.....

But you're right, I won't be happy until they're typing in caps.

Is it worth pointing out at this point that of all the technology that was swiped from Germany in 45, no one ever bothered developing the 262 or the Fw series?

Russia went on to work on some German jets, Spain further refined the 109 series, but the 262 and the Fw? Dodos, dead avenues, nada.

Just not up to par with what the rest of the world had.

Staga · « **Reply #27 on:** October 09, 2001, 05:08:00 AM »

Brits and U.S already had their jet-programs running fast and side-step from path they already chosed doesn't seem like a good idea.
Guess thats why some russian manufacturers did use Me-262 and maybe some FW (Ta-183)/Me concepts (Me P.1092) as a base-plan when they started to build their own jets. At least some russian early jets looks just like those german plans.

Staga · « **Reply #28 on:** October 09, 2001, 05:12:00 AM »

btw Seeker check this page, Scroll down and enjoy

Me P.1101

P.1101 with Allison Turbine in tests in U.S

[ 10-09-2001: Message edited by: Staga ]

Naso · « **Reply #29 on:** October 09, 2001, 05:27:00 AM »

I always wonder why F84/F86 had similar wings of Me262, evolution convergence?

And Seeker, CAPS CAPS CAPS CAPS!!!!!