Me 262 vs Me 262 | Me 262 vs Ar234

[rammjagr]

I dont mind needing 200 perks to fly a 262. However, when I am in the air in a 262 I expect to be able to use the plane realistically, not having to rubber neck constantly for "enemy" 262's!

I remember from Warbirds, every time u flew a 262, u just got 2 enemy 262's glued to your 6 soon as u maid contact with enemy.

I hope we can avoid this in AH.

I think 262's should not be allowed to kill other 262's or Ar234's. Who would fly a Ar234 when u know u just gona be shot by a 262???  

[eddiek]

Ya spend yer perks, ya take yer chances.

Why should you be immune from others in the same/similiar ride?  

You spent 200 for your 262 ride, so did your opponent, let the best man win.  Lamest whine I have heard yet, wanting the jets to be immune from one another..............

It's alright for a jet to kill a lesser plane, but no alright for an evenly matched fight, 262 vs 262............  

[rammjagr]

ok u can't figure it out so I will explain it to you. The 262 was unlike any other plane in ww2 (it was a jet (duh)). It was INVULNERABLE unless it was landing or taking off. Oh a few were shot down at speed, by GREAT flying -- pilots cutting them off in turns and makeing incredible deflection shots! THAT IS WHY IT COST'S 200 POINTS!

Point is, 262's having to worry about other 262's is just rediculous.

Every piston engine aircraft in ww2 had an enemy counterpart with comparable flight performance. The allies had NOTHING comparable to the 262. THAT IS THE POINT.
 

[Blue Mako]

If you don't want to face other pilots on an equal footing (ie. in the same plane type), go fly in the CT.  You fly in the MA, take your chances with every other plane (including other 262s) like everyone else.  Don't like those odds?  Don't pay the perkies then...

[Animal]

you are just pissed that you dont get to run from every other plane in the arena.

kinda pisses you off that others are also spending 200 and have more skill than you?

if I see enemy 262, i'm happy i'll have a very tense fight.

[rammjagr]

Originally posted by Animal:
you are just pissed that you dont get to run from every other plane in the arena.

kinda pisses you off that others are also spending 200 and have more skill than you?

personal attacks? you assume alot of  stuff, I guess u missed the point.....

[rammjagr]

Originally posted by Blue Mako:
If you don't want to face other pilots on an equal footing (ie. in the same plane type), go fly in the CT.  You fly in the MA, take your chances with every other plane (including other 262s) like everyone else.  Don't like those odds?  Don't pay the perkies then...

Ok, you dont get it either.... The 262 never faced anyone on equal footing! its not a prop job! That is why it costs 200 points! sheez, the low iq types are out in force.

 

[AKWarp]

Exactly!  It costs 200 points for you to fly, it costs 200 points for anyone else to fly also.  Equal footing?  PUHLEAZE, it's a damn game.  Since when did the germans fly spits and mosquitos as well as 190's and 109's?  or are you going to whine about that too?

If you don't want to face another 262 in your 262, then don't fly a 262!  Pretty simple.

[Blue Mako]

Originally posted by rammjagr:
Ok, you dont get it either.... The 262 never faced anyone on equal footing!

Then go fly offline and you won't have to either.

 

Sheez, the low iq types are out in force.

Sorry but I think it is YOU that is having all of the comprehension problems here.  I explained before but you didn't read my post and understand it:

The CT is for historical match ups.  When the 262 is available in there you will not have to worry about fighting other 262s.

The MA is fantasy.  Expect to face the same planes that you are flying.


Please TRY to understand this.  You will enjoy yourself much more then.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by rammjagr:


Ok, you dont get it either.... The 262 never faced anyone on equal footing! its not a prop job! That is why it costs 200 points! sheez, the low iq types are out in force.

   

rammjagr, please don't be so dweebish. If that argument were valid, then I would get to say the same about the P-51D. I should be immune to other P-51Ds because they had no equal at 25K either.

Hmm.. wait.. yeah.. then we can all fly the same plane and no one can shoot anyone else down because alike A/C are invunerable to each other.

Yeah.. that would be cool!  

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[Seeker]

What's this rubbish about the 262 being unique?

Let's put this to rest: Both the Brits (Meteor), Yanks (P80) AND the Japs (Kikka) all had jets.

Now you're going to whine that only the 262 saw action, but the Meteor has many many more A2A kills than the 262 (V1's), and the P80 went on to show what it could (or couldn't) do in Korea.

Galland flew both the 262 and meteor, and is on record as saying that he believed the 262 airframe to be far superior, but the robustness and reliability of the Meteors' engines off set this. (He re-equipped and trained the Argentine airforce post war with Meteors).

What an apalling red faced foot stamping whine.

[SOB]

Point: The 262 was unlike any other plane in ww2 (it was a jet (duh)). It was INVULNERABLE unless it was landing or taking off.

Counterpoint: This isn't WWII.

[GRUNHERZ]

Galland said A 262 with Meteor's engines would have been the ideal plane. However he said that the 262 was superior in every perfomance category, only its engines were less reliable.

Metor killing V1s is not A2A combat. Meteor even the MkIII is over 60mph slower than the 262.

The F80 has just absolutly nothing to do with WW2, sorry.


Anyway as for the topic.

Fly the 262 in the CT or in Scenarios and youll have ur realistic 262 advantages.

In the MA you have to fight it out and be careful. However with the 200point cost it will be quite rare that 2 262s meet frequently.

[GRUNHERZ]

And yes the 262 is very unique in WW2. Its the only jet of the war to engage in real WW2 air combat and actually shoot down real enemy planes. Planes that were figting and fighting back.

BTW the kikka was barely a 400mph plane. It was also ONLY a single seat light bomber, it had no guns. It only flew for about 30minutes if at all.

[rammjagr]

Originally posted by Midnight:
[QB]

If that argument were valid, then I would get to say the same about the P-51D. I should be immune to other P-51Ds because they had no equal at 25K either.

Midnight, time to remove your head from your %#!. P-51 getting shot down by a P-51 is not much different from a P-51 getting shot down by a FW-190D, very similar flight envelopes. This has been my point all along..... <sigh>

You tell me one allied plane that had similar speed, climb, manuverability as the 262 and I will agree with your point of view....