Direct x10? Should They?Or have they?

[20mmrain]

        I have recently got a new computer. One with an extreme amount of gaming potential! I am running Aces High at its highest potential as far as I know. But my computer is capable of so much more. I looked up on forums and Aces high articles and found nothing on Direct x10 or if Aces high is even Direct x10 playable yet. The graphics on Aces high are not bad but I think there is room for a little growth! I also do realize that not everyone has this capability to run such high graphics. So I guess my question and statements are, Dose Aces high have an even Higher Res. pack out there? And If they don't do you think that it is time to make such an upgrade available? If you don't give some reasons why, so I can understand why it might be bad. And last has anyone heard of Aces high working on such a venture. Now I will admit that I am just learning about computers and I might have some facts wrong here! But I've looked at some example Pics comparing Direct X9 and 10, and 10 just looks amazing!.... So I thought I would bring this Question up just to find out.

Thanx 20mmrain 

[20mmrain]

         I did a little more research and noticed that Direct X10 Is a Vista or 64 bit thing. Which My computer is 64 bit duo core but I'm not running Vista! Mainly because I heard it sucks! So I guess my Question is now. Is switching to Vista worth doing for the direct x10. I mean as far a graphics goes for this game. Or is there not to much of a difference XP compared to vista? Maybe because Aces High is just not capable yet? If there is a big visual difference I will get Vista now... But if there isn't I will wait for Windows 7 to come out in Aug-09:) Thanks to anyone who can help In advance. 

[Ack-Ack]

         I did a little more research and noticed that Direct X10 Is a Vista or 64 bit thing. Which My computer is 64 bit duo core but I'm not running Vista! Mainly because I heard it sucks! So I guess my Question is now. Is switching to Vista worth doing for the direct x10. I mean as far a graphics goes for this game. Or is there not to much of a difference XP compared to vista? Maybe because Aces High is just not capable yet? If there is a big visual difference I will get Vista now... But if there isn't I will wait for Windows 7 to come out in Aug-09:) Thanks to anyone who can help In advance. 

From a strictly gaming standpoint, the effects in DirectX 10 are really something to behold.  On my gaming machine at home, I have XP and in Lord of the Rings Online with highest graphic settings, the game looks incredible.  On my fiance's machine with Vista, LoTRO looks absolutely beautiful in DirectX 10.  Can't even tell you how stunning Assassin's Creed looks in DirectX 10.

However, if Aces High is only going to be the primary game you'll be playing, there is no need to go to DirectX 10, especially since there are no plans for Devs to drop support for DirectX 9 in games.

If you're going to get a DX10 compliant video card, make sure it's at least DX 10.1 compatible.  Not sure if the latest Nvida 2xx line of cards is DX 10.1 compliant but the ATI 3xxx line and up are.  The latest version of DirectX 10 is 10.1 and only cards that support Direct X 10.1 are the ones with specific support built in.  However since DirectX 10.1 is backwards compatible with DirectX 10, cards with DirectX 10 support will still be able to play, just without some of the added bells and whistles (which IIRC, is mainly on the dev side, not what the end user will really notice) in DirectX 10.1.


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[20mmrain]

I am Running(with out getting to technical):

AMDx2 64bit
4 gig RAM (unfortunately only 3 and a half with XP)
750 watt power supply
gigabyte Mother board
10,000 rpm HD with 500? GB mem( i forget)
Sapphire x 2 ATI Radeon 3870 video cards ( Direct x10.1)
And other Minor stuff that I don't need to mention.....

      So that makes me very happy to hear that I made the right choice when it came to choosing between Direct x10 and 10.1! I posted what I'm running in case it would help anyone else answer the question as well. But it dose sound like you know what your talking about! So in recap of what your saying Aces High is not planning on making that jump anytime soon and that most other games aren't either. They will probably be sticking with Direct X9 for a while and waiting for people to catch up? Am I under standing that right.
      Well anyway Ack Ack thank you for the answer you been some help! 

[Ack-Ack]

So in recap of what your saying Aces High is not planning on making that jump anytime soon and that most other games aren't either. They will probably be sticking with Direct X9 for a while and waiting for people to catch up? Am I under standing that right.
     

Well anyway Ack Ack thank you for the answer you been some help! 

Basically, yes.  As long as Microsoft is still supporting and the majority of gamers still using XP and DirectX 9, I'd venture it's a pretty safe assumption that we'll see DirectX 9 for sometime.  Though, I would not be surprised if sometime in the future, Microsoft adds some DX10 features into DirectX 9 or even make DirectX 10 work in XP (though I believe there maybe XP OS limitations that prevent this).


And you're most welcome.


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[Wingnutt]

are they going to keep making games with only DX9 support now that DX10 is around and the STANDARD on every new machine coming out?  geez, what do you think?

"i dont have vista because I heard it sucks"

thats the standard response, no hands on, no nothing "heard it sucks"

yea, it sucks, if you stick it on a machine that has less than 2 gb of ram and an aged processor it sucks huge rhinoceros juevos..  but if you put it on a machine with some meat behind it.. its great.. on a high end machine it actually runs faster than XP.

Ive BEEN running vista 64 for a good while now, absolutely no reason to switch back to XP, zip, none.

for a while games will retain support for DX9 thats to be sure, but anything that is anything that is coming out will be able to take advantage of DX10, and the advantage is HUGE.. Higher FPS, better graphics, more options..


oh, and dont feel like your cool or "edgy" because your being "alternative" and a "rebel" by sticking with XP..  your being a poser, don't like Vista? wanna rebel, go big or go home, linux is free.

[Krusty]

OMG... wow... wingnutt's been hittin' the wacky tabaccy!

[Wingnutt]

OMG... wow... wingnutt's been hittin' the wacky tabaccy!

You told me it was oregano!!

[bozon]

Too much hype for graphics, too little attention to the actual game - that my friend is the great epidemic of the gaming industry.

The problem is that "graphics" sell, while gameplay not so much. I enjoy directx 8 games more than most of the new ones. When I want to look at pretty pictures, I buy a magazine. Not THAT kind of magazine you sick perverts!

[Greebo]

I don't think I'm being a rebel by sticking to XP. The only graphically intensive game I play is AH as anything without AH's snap view system tends to make me motion sick. When AH goes DX10 I will too, in the mean time I'll keep my money in my pocket and not Microsoft's.

[wooly15]

20mm, I am running a similar setup to yours except the video card (8800gtx here).  My machine is set up as dual boot with xp pro 64 bit and vista home premium 32 bit.  For me it is night and day running aces high.  My frame rates with vista are horrific and I warp constantly.  It is the same way with other games too mainly FSX.  It is unplayabe on vista and smooth as silk on XP.  I know that the 32 bit version of vista is a big part of it but it shouldn't be that drastic.  Microsoft has essentially given up on vista and started focusing attention on windows 7.  I am not going to spend money on a 64 bit version of vista when the new windows will be out soon.

[Shuffler]

          Is switching to Vista worth doing for the direct x10.

No! I setup 10 vista machines at my shop. Once you finally get all the crud turned off in it, it is ok at best. Not worth buying. More troublesome than it is worth. I still run XP on 4 of the 5 machines I have online at home. Funny thing is the vista machine, no one wants to use so I set it up to just be a server.

[Anaxogoras]

oh, and dont feel like your cool or "edgy" because your being "alternative" and a "rebel" by sticking with XP..  your being a poser, don't like Vista? wanna rebel, go big or go home, linux is free.

Is Microsquash going to hire you to be their new "I'm a PC" guy?

[SB]

Let me chime in one the vista xp debate. I run both on different machine so no preference in the actual OS. I brought my vista 64 machine to the convention, hooked up the Matrox triple head that HTC had sitting around the office and ran Aces High on 3 screens at 60 FPS. The folks that made the con got to see it in action and it ran fine. Skuzzy kept crossing himself every time he walked by a Vista machine and muttering under his breath but he survived being in the same room with it.

Vista is different and has a lot higher hardware requirements than an XP machine, if you meet those requirements it runs just fine. I've only had one problem with backwards compatibility on a game and it looks like that is mostly the problem of the Nvidia drivers. Every time I upgrade the drivers the old game runs longer between crashes. New games don't crash.

I'm looking forward to the next Intel OS but will not be an early adopter of it until the major bugs are worked out.

SB

[Krusty]

Microsoft has essentially given up on vista and started focusing attention on windows 7.

Windows 7 *IS* Vista. They can't sell it under "Vista" though, because folks know about it. So they give it a new name, a few minor patches, but 99% of the code is the same, including the coad bloat and higher system requirements, for no new features over WinXP.

Don't believe the hype. It took 10 years to release Vista. You think they can code a new OS in 6 months? It's all marketing.