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Offline texasmom

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ebay blunders
« on: January 29, 2009, 10:16:35 PM »
Bought my kid a drum set... I either didn't read between the lines or there was nothing written between the lines about the actual size of the set. So we pick the thing up, and it's kindergarten size.  I think he probably scored a few points with his girlfriend by giving the set to her little sister... then we went & bought him a guitar instead at the local guitar shop.

Any other ebay blunders out there?
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Re: ebay blunders
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2009, 10:18:02 PM »
Bought my kid a drum set... I either didn't read between the lines or there was nothing written between the lines about the actual size of the set. So we pick the thing up, and it's kindergarten size.  I think he probably scored a few points with his girlfriend by giving the set to her little sister... then we went & bought him a guitar instead at the local guitar shop.

Any other ebay blunders out there?

Friend of mine bought a rifle in "mint condition" or something like that, he gets it, the stock is broken. The thing cost like 4000$$, so they I guess called the police (or whoever you call about this sort of thing) and they got their money back.
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Re: ebay blunders
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2009, 11:26:03 PM »
Ebay is a sellers paradise TxMom.
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Re: ebay blunders
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2009, 11:29:18 PM »
When did they start selling firearms on ebay? I know you can sell parts and accessories but not a working firearm.

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2009, 11:31:30 PM »
When did they start selling firearms on ebay? I know you can sell parts and accessories but not a working firearm.

I'd believe that he bought it on something like gunbroker.
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Re: ebay blunders
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2009, 08:45:41 AM »
My sister bought a changing table at a ridiculously low price.  When she got it she found out it was a miniature for a doll house.  I have had literally hundreds of eBay transactions and none have gone bad.  You just have to read the description carefully, know what you are bidding on, check the sellers feedback rating and don't bid more than you think the item is worth including shipping.

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Re: ebay blunders
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2009, 01:12:37 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqsS-7HFrU&feature=channel_page

Here's my kid playing drums, we bought the set for $300 at guitar center, not bad.

edit: I might be worng but I recall ebay selling guns some time ago. They must have decided it was a hassle and stoped.
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Re: ebay blunders
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2009, 02:38:21 PM »
Here are some blunders from my perspective. I'm a power seller on ebay, I mainly sell brand new items given to sponsored athletes by the sponsors. I need to have great feedback because I'm often selling items that are copied and sold on ebay. (knock off sunglasses are the perfect example). I've got to have good feedback so people know they are getting legit original items.

I sold a pair of ski boots to a guy in China. I clearly state in my auction that international shipments are sent using standard air mail and delivery times can vary drastically depending on their countries customs. This guys boots don't show up, so we track them. The tracking info clearly says that it has left the USA and is waiting in China to be delivered (in customs). We email back and forth many times and he finally threatens me with negative feedback unless I give him a refund. I have no power over something that is setting in customs in China, but before I could even reply to this last email I see that he has left me negative. Then THE VERY NEXT DAY he emailed me telling me he got the item. Of course there is no way to remove feedback unless I PAY ebay (through the seller resolution center). Ebay account #1 is ruined, time to start a new account.

I sold a vehicle, a 1970's jeep CJ-5. It had a new motor and new fiberglass body, but otherwise was a 30+ year old jeep. This local guy wants to bid on it, so he comes by and takes it on a 1+ hour test drive with his son. He bids and wins the auction, comes back and before paying takes it on another long test drive. He seems very happy and gives me cash. A full month passes by and this guy calls me saying there are all kinds of problems. He said he took it to a mechanic (first mistake) and the mechanic told him it needed a ton of work. Of course it does, its a 1970's jeep, its a 'project car'! This guy pays $100 to take me to ebay resolution center and then the resolution guy from ebay basically laughs at him on the phone, he test drove the car before he paid, the auction was accurate, so he had no case. He still left me negative feedback. Account #2 down the drain, next...

I sold a mountain bike that is in "excellent mechanical condition, normal signs from being used for over a year". The buyer emails me when he gets the bike saying its scratched. I tell him this normal, but ask what can I do to make the situation better. He says he wants a partial refund of $500 (bike sold for $2000). I tell him no way, I can give him a full refund if he sends the bike back. He says he doesn't want to deal with shipping it, and either wants a partial refund or he will leave neg. Again I say send it back for a full refund (I'll even pay for his return shipping). No reply, negative feedback left later that week. Account #3 done.

I sold a climbing "cam" for over $100. The person says they never got it and want a refund. I track the package and it shows that it was delivered. I email the buyer with the tracking info. The person then changes the story and says they got it, but nothing was inside the package. I tell them it was there responsibility to turn away a package if it looks like it was opened, and I can't do anything on my end, especially after they have changed their story and are obviously trying something. After another 5 emails asking for a partial refund and threatening with negative feedback, he finally negs me. Obviously he was scamming, but ebay has no way to protect the seller. Another account ruined.

Overall I've lost several accounts (over 10) to negative feedback that was not deserved. Ebay has taken away the ability to leave negative feedback as a seller. That means once the auction is over I as the seller have absolutely no leverage on the deal. The buyer can leave negative feedback for no reasons at all and with no worries about my retaliation. In order to get negative feedback even looked at by ebay I have to pay to open a dispute.

Combine that with the new fees, depending on the final price the seller will be paying 15% or more of the final price to ebay and paypal (both owned by the same company).

Anytime you feel like you got screwed over buying something on ebay, log into the ebay forums and look at the hundreds of complaints coming from sellers. Many of the largest powersellers that are selling more than anyone on ebay (and therefor giving ebay more money than anyone) are quitting ebay by the day. It's really sad the way things are going. It used to be a great place to garage sell all your junk or find some cool things to buy, now its turning into another internet cesspool thats full of scams and people getting screwed on both sides of the coin.

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Re: ebay blunders
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2009, 03:11:55 PM »
One good recent addition is the "ask the seller a question", where the question and the answer are both shown on the page.  Failure to answer the question, or being vague in the answer is a good clue as well.


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Re: ebay blunders
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2009, 03:16:51 PM »
Dang, akhog, that sucks. I haven't used ebay in a while. I didn't know they had new fees like that. That destroys almost all that ebay is about.

I don't understand about having to create a new account over one negative rep, though. I always buy from power sellers and I usually look for 97-99% positive, depending on how many transactions they have. Any sensible person knows that there are idiots out there who give negative rep for no good reason, and stuff happens during shipping that is beyond the sellers control.

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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2009, 04:55:00 PM »
Personally I find ebay a mess to use - I only ever used it to get hard to use items outside of NZ. A few years back a couple of guys in NZ setup this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/  then sold it years later making them instant multimillionaires. And yes you can buy guns on it :D . But look how clean and easy it is to read compared to ebay.



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Re: ebay blunders
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2009, 05:45:48 PM »
Here are some blunders from my perspective. I'm a power seller on ebay, I mainly sell brand new items given to sponsored athletes by the sponsors. I need to have great feedback because I'm often selling items that are copied and sold on ebay. (knock off sunglasses are the perfect example). I've got to have good feedback so people know they are getting legit original items.

I sold a pair of ski boots to a guy in China. I clearly state in my auction that international shipments are sent using standard air mail and delivery times can vary drastically depending on their countries customs. This guys boots don't show up, so we track them. The tracking info clearly says that it has left the USA and is waiting in China to be delivered (in customs). We email back and forth many times and he finally threatens me with negative feedback unless I give him a refund. I have no power over something that is setting in customs in China, but before I could even reply to this last email I see that he has left me negative. Then THE VERY NEXT DAY he emailed me telling me he got the item. Of course there is no way to remove feedback unless I PAY ebay (through the seller resolution center). Ebay account #1 is ruined, time to start a new account.

I sold a vehicle, a 1970's jeep CJ-5. It had a new motor and new fiberglass body, but otherwise was a 30+ year old jeep. This local guy wants to bid on it, so he comes by and takes it on a 1+ hour test drive with his son. He bids and wins the auction, comes back and before paying takes it on another long test drive. He seems very happy and gives me cash. A full month passes by and this guy calls me saying there are all kinds of problems. He said he took it to a mechanic (first mistake) and the mechanic told him it needed a ton of work. Of course it does, its a 1970's jeep, its a 'project car'! This guy pays $100 to take me to ebay resolution center and then the resolution guy from ebay basically laughs at him on the phone, he test drove the car before he paid, the auction was accurate, so he had no case. He still left me negative feedback. Account #2 down the drain, next...

I sold a mountain bike that is in "excellent mechanical condition, normal signs from being used for over a year". The buyer emails me when he gets the bike saying its scratched. I tell him this normal, but ask what can I do to make the situation better. He says he wants a partial refund of $500 (bike sold for $2000). I tell him no way, I can give him a full refund if he sends the bike back. He says he doesn't want to deal with shipping it, and either wants a partial refund or he will leave neg. Again I say send it back for a full refund (I'll even pay for his return shipping). No reply, negative feedback left later that week. Account #3 done.

I sold a climbing "cam" for over $100. The person says they never got it and want a refund. I track the package and it shows that it was delivered. I email the buyer with the tracking info. The person then changes the story and says they got it, but nothing was inside the package. I tell them it was there responsibility to turn away a package if it looks like it was opened, and I can't do anything on my end, especially after they have changed their story and are obviously trying something. After another 5 emails asking for a partial refund and threatening with negative feedback, he finally negs me. Obviously he was scamming, but ebay has no way to protect the seller. Another account ruined.

Overall I've lost several accounts (over 10) to negative feedback that was not deserved. Ebay has taken away the ability to leave negative feedback as a seller. That means once the auction is over I as the seller have absolutely no leverage on the deal. The buyer can leave negative feedback for no reasons at all and with no worries about my retaliation. In order to get negative feedback even looked at by ebay I have to pay to open a dispute.

Combine that with the new fees, depending on the final price the seller will be paying 15% or more of the final price to ebay and paypal (both owned by the same company).

Anytime you feel like you got screwed over buying something on ebay, log into the ebay forums and look at the hundreds of complaints coming from sellers. Many of the largest powersellers that are selling more than anyone on ebay (and therefor giving ebay more money than anyone) are quitting ebay by the day. It's really sad the way things are going. It used to be a great place to garage sell all your junk or find some cool things to buy, now its turning into another internet cesspool thats full of scams and people getting screwed on both sides of the coin.



i understand wanting to have excellent feedback......but one neg is no reason to cancel an account.

on that note.....a buddy of mine runs a computer business, and he used to sell boatloads of stuff on there. he got screwed by buyers too, and i think he stopped totally.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2009, 07:05:55 PM »
i think ebay is kind of crap now.  It was great in the beginning but with all the fees and hassle now i don't think it is worth it for me.  Most of the time anything i want used i can find on craigslist locally and can go look and touch it before buying it thereby eliminating the crap of creative selling i.e. the dollhouse changing set or the tiny drums talked about earlier.  As far as new stuff it seems like most of the new stuff is priced the same as i can buy it in a store locally and then if there is a problem i can talk to someone face to face.  I also hate the crap some try where they set the price $30 less than local but then charge $30 for shipping.  Does that fool anyone.  Shipping is cheap.  I just hate to see what has happened to ebay cause i used to use it alot in the begginin. Anyway rant over.

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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2009, 08:19:10 PM »
Ebay is a sellers paradise TxMom.

Not any more. Sellers can no longer leave negative feedback for buyers. Sellers must now use PayPal (ebay owned) for almost every sale, or at least use another electronic payment option, or accept credit cards. All of those options expose the seller to having his or her money taken back by the buyer, for pretty much any reason, valid or not.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2009, 08:22:18 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqsS-7HFrU&feature=channel_page

Here's my kid playing drums, we bought the set for $300 at guitar center, not bad.

edit: I might be worng but I recall ebay selling guns some time ago. They must have decided it was a hassle and stoped.

Ebay originally sold guns. It's not really a hassle, otherwise gunbroker and auctionarms wouldn't be doing it. Ebay and PayPal do not like guns.
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