Correct way to play AH2?

[uptown]

With all this talk on the BBS about fair and honorable play, it got me wondering just what that means. HOing,spawn camping, milking,picking, ganging, vulching,ramming,bombing GVs,taking out hangers,taking bases, noe missions,running, flying LAs, Spits and Ponys all seem to be frowned upon.

So, can someone tell me the correct way to interact in the game. What plane to fly and how to fly it? This way we'll all be on the same page and we can once and for all end the whineing.

[Saxman]

Near as I can figure, the only "correct" way to play is to fly as low and slow on the deck as you can, and ACM is to consist of nothing more than pulling the stick back as far as you can. And GOD forbid if you go vertical...

 

[Cajunn]

With all this talk on the BBS about fair and honorable play, it got me wondering just what that means. HOing,spawn camping, milking,picking, ganging, vulching,ramming,bombing GVs,taking out hangers,taking bases, noe missions,running, flying LAs, Spits and Ponys all seem to be frowned upon.

So, can someone tell me the correct way to interact in the game. What plane to fly and how to fly it? This way we'll all be on the same page and we can once and for all end the whineing.

To add to this if you don't mind....I like the turn guys who complain about being ho'ed by the Pony's, F4U's etc. My answer is why would I want to get in a turn fight with a plane I can't turn fight with. Them telling me to not BnZ is like me telling them to not BnT.....I fly the Pony with the tactics that better suit the abilities of my chosen ride and I really don't see any fault in that. So if I HO you guys in your turn planes quit sending me nasty messages because I'm not sorry and I want answer you!  

[Shuffler]

Just because you can't turn fight in those does not mean others can't either. Learn your plane and you'd be surprised what it can do. After all it's not the plane that HOs but the pilot.

Lanc stukas and dive bombing in B24s same...... learn your plane.

Last night a new guy came on and asked how to move a tank. I asked if he had read the help files and tried the Training Arena to learn the basic. I told him the game would be more fun with that knowledge.

Instead folks start explaining to him how to do it. Well sure enough that led to another and another question. The text buffer is busy enough without helping those in the main arenas. It is a simple fix. I spend around a couple of hours a week in TA to help folks. Anyone can come in and help. Then if we send new folks there they will learn all the basics and the game will be that much more fun for them.

[Cajunn]

So what is the definition of Ho'ing.....

I once heard a WW2 fighter pilot say and I quote:

"Dogfighting ended with WW1, in WW2 air combat was more of a melee." he went on to say that " if he could sneak up and shoot someone in the back, he would" and that " most pilots that were shot down never seen the plane that shot them down" he also said that " fighter pilots were deemed Heroic in some way, but air combat was just not that romantic in WW2"

So I say how should I play the game...the way someone else would like me to play. I think not, I'm going to play the game the way i find it exciting to me and in a way that I find it more historical in my opinion. If I wanted to turn fight I would still be flying my spit 9 and i found that a little boring, I like hunting at 10 or 15k and catching someone else by surprise. I'm in it for the hunt, I'm not in it for gaming.   

[Shuffler]

Well before the influx of fly-out-of-the-box types came along you did not see hardly any Hos.

If your nose to nose and both have guns..... many of the better sticks pass up such a shot for the fight. For those that do not know their plane they tend to be outclassed and tend to pull the trigger.. the Ho. This game is nothing like actual war.... if it were you'd be out of the game when you die. I believe that if CT had come to be that folks would not be hoing as much. If I understand correctly, in CT you would have had to start back in training.


As to how the game should be played.... depends on if your looking for a fight or just looking to drop a quarter in and get a kill any way you can.

[Cajunn]

Well before the influx of fly-out-of-the-box types came along you did not see hardly any Hos.

If your nose to nose and both have guns..... many of the better sticks pass up such a shot for the fight. For those that do not know their plane they tend to be outclassed and tend to pull the trigger.. the Ho. This game is nothing like actual war.... if it were you'd be out of the game when you die. I believe that if CT had come to be that folks would not be hoing as much. If I understand correctly, in CT you would have had to start back in training.


As to how the game should be played.... depends on if your looking for a fight or just looking to drop a quarter in and get a kill any way you can.

In my defense I should also say I always ask a friendly before i get into his fight, and most of the enemy's that I do drop on or usually the ones that are dropping from alt on a friendly. I just prefer my fights to take place at higher altitudes and having the advantage is part of the strategy for me. I will fight one on one but under my conditions! So just because I use slashing attacks, dropping in from alt attacks, or choose to fight vertical etc., that is not really ho'ing in my opinion.

[BlauK]

My way is the only correct way for me. So is yours for you
The rest can whine about it 

[Anodizer]

Well before the influx of fly-out-of-the-box types came along you did not see hardly any Hos.

If your nose to nose and both have guns..... many of the better sticks pass up such a shot for the fight. For those that do not know their plane they tend to be outclassed and tend to pull the trigger.. the Ho. This game is nothing like actual war.... if it were you'd be out of the game when you die. I believe that if CT had come to be that folks would not be hoing as much. If I understand correctly, in CT you would have had to start back in training.


As to how the game should be played.... depends on if your looking for a fight or just looking to drop a quarter in and get a kill any way you can.

Well said....
I'm not worried about the ho as I fly to avoid it mostly..  If you avoid the ho, 9 times out of 10, the guy administering the attempted ho will put himself in a bad position
and is usually on the defensive the rest of the fight..  He has no clue what to do after missing the only shot he knows that gives him the best chance of hitting anything..
How exciting....

[LLogann]

That is not entirely accurate......  And ho's during the war are documented all over the place.  "Grim Reaper" F6F pilot, WWII ace, says he never had a dogfight.  Always nose to tail or nose to nose, with the latter being far more "real." 

If your nose to nose and both have guns..... many of the better sticks pass up such a shot for the fight. For those that do not know their plane they tend to be outclassed and tend to pull the trigger.. the Ho. This game is nothing like actual war....

[Shuffler]

In my defense I should also say I always ask a friendly before i get into his fight, and most of the enemy's that I do drop on or usually the ones that are dropping from alt on a friendly. I just prefer my fights to take place at higher altitudes and having the advantage is part of the strategy for me. I will fight one on one but under my conditions! So just because I use slashing attacks, dropping in from alt attacks, or choose to fight vertical etc., that is not really ho'ing in my opinion.

What you just described is not a ho. Just your method of flying. I will say that if you only approach fights where you have advantage you will end up on the short end of the stick when you get in trouble. I prefer fights on the deck in the trees. I like not having to climb to fight... takes time. I prefer to get to the fight right off. I have nothing against folks who fight in the clouds. Just a matter of preference. On the other hand when I find myself 5 or 10k under a con or two, I'm still in my comfort zone. I can more times than not just burn their E till the fight is actually on. I come out on top a reasonable amount of times.

Last night I found myself mixed with 3 cons. The burned their E till finally they were in the mix. I pinged a couple of them, one was smoking and none ever pinged me. I ended up being picked by a fourth that came from thier base. Was fun up to that point. Then I got a brand new 38.


LLogann your back in RL again.... we are talking about the game. You also do not really die in the game.

[Hungry]

here we go again

[waystin2]

Well let me be the first to say it is the land-grabbers way of playing that ruins the game!  No wait, it's the elitist furballers!  No wait, it's NOE's!  No wait, it's mega super duper sized squads!  Errr, I meant HOing, picking, vulching, camping...Did I miss anything? 

Seriously, be respectful, have fun, and play the way you like with those two things in mind.  Anything else is a waste of time & energy.  Kind of like channel 200.

[CAVPFCDD]

ok, WHAT THE HECK IS THE BIG DEAL WITH THE HOs. I understand its a "newb" move and what have you but, my god you people are whiners, if you see a plane coming straight for you with better guns you move out of the way, I don't know how many times a game i get out fo the way of ho-er, its usally not all that difficult.

and who wrote the rule book and said you not allowed to do that, if you have the shot take it, thats the point of the game, i personally dont blatantly fly straight into people because thats not how I fly, but in the course of a furball with someone if a head on shot presents itself im going to take it because that would mean I get a big hit on him, maybe even shooting him down, thus achieving the purpose of dogfighting shooting the other guy down

I mean really guys its a game, deal with someone doing something that you dont like, thats life, annoying things happen all the time, I have no idea why people make such an issue out of this

[Shuffler]

hmm there is a discussion here and you last three are looking for an arguement it seems. Why mess up the boards that way. To the ho'ers everything is a whine when you point one out or it seems even when you don't. Cajun was asking questions and I was doing my best to answer. If you have an answer then post it and quit trying to start arguements.