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Offline B4Buster

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Re: 109s
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2009, 11:21:02 AM »
109F is my personal favorite, and also one of the best looking planes in game
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Re: 109s
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2009, 12:35:39 PM »
109G6. Get used to it and you'll never fly any other 109. I promise you. Fly it's strengths and learn it's weaknesses and ya won't die.  :salute

Hardest of the 109s to master but once you do, it's a expert killer with the cowling MGs.

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Re: 109s
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2009, 01:34:29 PM »
109G6. Get used to it and you'll never fly any other 109. I promise you. Fly it's strengths and learn it's weaknesses and ya won't die.  :salute

Hardest of the 109s to master but once you do, it's a expert killer with the cowling MGs.

Agreed on all points.

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Re: 109s
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2009, 01:37:23 PM »
The worst 109 for air to air is the G-6.  It handles like a pig for some reason.

Oh realy? Who can fly in a 3v1 and make it out of it in a G6? G6 is one of the best turners, as long as you know how to use it. I like to call it a "one sided plane" because of its high ability to only turn to the left side. That is the side of a torque, if I'm not mistaken. I've said it in the past, and I keep saying it, takes six shots to kill a plane in a G6. That works almost every time you get a shot on a plane.
K4 is a good plane, but its a hard to get in a turn fight with. I most fight with E agaist any plane in a K4, becasue of its acell. rate.
109F is the best turner of the 109s. You can out turn a spit if your good with it, and you can E fight with the best.
Every one else is in between those airplanes.
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Re: 109s
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2009, 01:39:00 PM »
109G6. Get used to it and you'll never fly any other 109. I promise you. Fly it's strengths and learn it's weaknesses and ya won't die.  :salute

Hardest of the 109s to master but once you do, it's a expert killer with the cowling MGs.

Definitely a man's plane, but you are absolutely correct.

Once that learning curve is out of the way, she'll get ya home every time.  :aok
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Re: 109s
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2009, 01:40:37 PM »
Oh realy? Who can fly in a 3v1 and make it out of it in a G6? G6 is one of the best turners, as long as you know how to use it. I like to call it a "one sided plane" because of its high ability to only turn to the left side. That is the side of a torque, if I'm not mistaken. I've said it in the past, and I keep saying it, takes six shots to kill a plane in a G6. That works almost every time you get a shot on a plane.
K4 is a good plane, but its a hard to get in a turn fight with. I most fight with E agaist any plane in a K4, becasue of its acell. rate.
109F is the best turner of the 109s. You can out turn a spit if your good with it, and you can E fight with the best.
Every one else is in between those airplanes.

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Re: 109s
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2009, 01:41:44 PM »
I have a film of me and 2 F6Fs, not as much as three, but it still is an excellent film.
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Re: 109s
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2009, 01:57:09 PM »
I absolutely fell in love with the K4 the second week of tour 108.  I think it is the most kills i've had in a single plane.  All the Corsair variants combined has more but just love the big fireball when landing a hit on a fighter.  I've shot down 2 tempests in the last 10 days cause they weren't giving the K4 any respect of how well she can accelerate back into the fight.  Both kills came from 600-800 range.  You totally get excited when you hit your opponent with sniperlike accuracy.  I love the Corsair but when you need alt fast for incoming K4 is my ride.  I think I impressed some of my squaddies after the 2nd week flying it cause they started to up in it with me.  Its an addictive plane when you start landing the kills.  I just need to learn the throttle control better cause way too often controls get sluggish.  I need to spend a little time with some great K4 or 109 sticks to help me.  Can anyone suggest some squads or individuals that would be willing?  Couple of weeks ago ran 2 fellers that were in a German squad and had a blast fighting them.  I got owned but I wish I could remember who they were.  They were complete gentlemen.  At the time I didn't think I'd stick with the K4 so I didn't think about it. 
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Re: 109s
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2009, 02:09:30 PM »
The 109G series is my favorite... the G2 and the G6 are very close in performance, which for both is awesome and well rounded. For me the G6 is even a bit more stable, I prefer the way it flies to the G2. However, guns aside the G2 does have a small but definite edge on the G6. Guns aside, that is... I like the added firepower of the upgraded cowl guns.

The G14 is a very flexible late war fighter, with the 20mm, 30mm, and 20mm trio packages, as well as it's ordinance options. Generally, I like to use the MG151 for fighters, 3 MG151's when I know I'm going to encounter almost only bombers under 20k, or BnZ, and the MK108 for mixed fighting and high altitude buff interception. The G-14 is a pig at high altitudes with gondolas (as is the G6, for that matter).

I also like the F a lot. It's just a well balanced, great performing, beautiful aircraft.

I don't like to fly the K as much as the others, it's a bit 'uber' IMO. Extremely fast, high rate of climb, etc. I also don't like the MK108 as much as the MG151. It's the easiest 109 to use effectively IMO.

If it weren't for it's lack of roll rate and MG/FF's I'd like the E a lot more than I do, but it's still fun to take up occasionally and TnB.

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Re: 109s
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2009, 03:12:43 PM »
109G6. Get used to it and you'll never fly any other 109. I promise you. Fly it's strengths and learn it's weaknesses and ya won't die.  :salute

Hardest of the 109s to master but once you do, it's a expert killer with the cowling MGs.

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Re: 109s
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2009, 03:59:17 PM »
...even though the G2 on paper is faster and has a better turn radius, the G6 outperforms it.
What's your definition of performance?
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Re: 109s
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2009, 11:04:09 PM »
The G6 is more stable at stall speeds from our test's, the G2 has a mean snapstall in a rolling scisors.
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Re: 109s
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2009, 07:44:42 AM »
Yea, i have a film where i am shooting nose up in a stall at about 50-100MPH controlling the stall while aiming. Takes some practice but ya can fight with ya nose up to very low speeds. Will upload soon.

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Re: 109s
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2009, 10:26:15 AM »
The G6 is more stable at stall speeds from our test's, the G2 has a mean snapstall in a rolling scisors.

Yeah, I never understood this.

The G2 is definately more unstable than the G6.

However by the same token, I feel that the G14 is more stable than the K4.

With all the aerodynamic disadvantages that the 6 and 14 have over the 2 and 4, respectively, I figure it should be the opposite.

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Re: 109s
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2009, 10:30:48 AM »
I think it might be the torque of the bigger engines.
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