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Offline P1Tiger

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ingame
« on: February 04, 2009, 12:00:50 AM »
While Im ingame its been freezing and I have to then manually shut down my pc The first time it happened
it shut down my anti virus While i was in security settings I saw alot of the activeX were disabled.
Would this be part of the problem
If not then explain what it is
Also please explain what activeX is
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Re: ingame
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2009, 07:42:37 AM »
If I remember right, your computer is on the weak side. Flight sim games work the CPU very hard for all of the computation. Yours may be overheating and shutting down. Making sure you have the computer running as clean as you can will help. You don't need your antivirus running while playing the game. Hitting cntrl, alt, and delete at the same time on your keyboard will will open a window. Click on the processes tab at the top, then look in the lower corner. It will tell you how many processes you have running. The lower the number, the better, in the 20's is what you SHOULD be able to get it down too. Too many things running at the same time spreads the CPU out too much.

Activex is a set of programs that are in your browsers and other Microsoft programs. They are little programs that windows calls on to do different things. Some can be used maliciously so that is why its recommended to have them turned off, for better security.

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Re: ingame
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2009, 06:29:25 PM »
ok my computer isnt that week when it comes to AH, just my internet, my PC runs fine, and i am about to purchase 2G of RAM as soon as i fined a cheap price, its the fact the my AVG Security isnt working, but ill try AH again today and see if it works
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Re: ingame
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2009, 08:16:53 PM »
How much do you have running in the background while you play?  That's what The Fugitive is getting at.  The stuff running along with AH is using part of your 1GB of memory. 

Shut off stuff you don't need.  Printer spools waste a bunch of processing power that can be better used on Ace High.

I used to alt tab out of AH and ctrl/alt/delete and shut down all the crap going on in the background.  It helps.  Try FS Autostart.  (google it, it's free).  You set up an AH profile with it.  Instead of starting AH, you start FS Autostart and it shuts down all the superfluous junk you've told it to and starts AH.  Exit AH and it will reboot everything back up automagically.

I've gone from 44 processes running to 12 with FS Autostart. 



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Re: ingame
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2009, 09:15:30 PM »
This is what you posted for your computer....

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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/10/2009, 17:06:56
       Machine name: 41RAMEY
   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.080814-1233)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
       System Model: Dimension 2400             
               BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A05
          Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
             Memory: 254MB RAM
          Page File: 431MB used, 190MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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        Card name: Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
     Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
        Chip type: Intel(R) 82845G Graphics Controller
         DAC type: Internal
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2562&SUBSYS_01601028&REV_01
   Display Memory: 64.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (70Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200

Thats what I mean by weak. I'm not picking on you, what you have is what you have. To make it work you will need to turn down the "eye candy" in the game, as well as getting your computer to run as clean and lean as you can. You barely have enough processes speed, not enough ram, and video that is trying to us virtual memory to get by. The less things you try to stuff through it the better it will run.

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Re: ingame
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2009, 10:19:11 PM »
This is what you posted for your computer....

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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/10/2009, 17:06:56
       Machine name: 41RAMEY
   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.080814-1233)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
       System Model: Dimension 2400             
               BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A05
          Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz
             Memory: 254MB RAM
          Page File: 431MB used, 190MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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        Card name: Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
     Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
        Chip type: Intel(R) 82845G Graphics Controller
         DAC type: Internal
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2562&SUBSYS_01601028&REV_01
   Display Memory: 64.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (70Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200

Thats what I mean by weak. I'm not picking on you, what you have is what you have. To make it work you will need to turn down the "eye candy" in the game, as well as getting your computer to run as clean and lean as you can. You barely have enough processes speed, not enough ram, and video that is trying to us virtual memory to get by. The less things you try to stuff through it the better it will run.

i know, good post to point out what you mean  :aok but im going from 254 mb to 2G in a few days, and will the graphics card slow me down?
and i dont know what process' are good and bad, but i dont have anything running out of AH anymore, maybe skype once and awile, with no calls
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Re: ingame
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2009, 05:54:09 AM »
Onboard video chips, such as the Intel video chip, are not meant to run games like ours.  Even Intel's own WEB site will tell you that.  It is a $2 video chip.  It does not have its own video RAM.  It steals RAM from the main computer system RAM.

It can run the game, somewhat, but there will be performance issues and some things which simply will not display right.  You will need to run everything in the game at bare minimums and you must have a very clean machine in terms of background processes in order to get the most performance you can from the system.
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Re: ingame
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2009, 07:44:28 PM »
Onboard video chips, such as the Intel video chip, are not meant to run games like ours.  Even Intel's own WEB site will tell you that.  It is a $2 video chip.  It does not have its own video RAM.  It steals RAM from the main computer system RAM.

It can run the game, somewhat, but there will be performance issues and some things which simply will not display right.  You will need to run everything in the game at bare minimums and you must have a very clean machine in terms of background processes in order to get the most performance you can from the system.
ok tell me if any of these would be best for me please
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048%204025&name=%2425%20-%20%2450

and this is the ram im getting
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227210

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Re: ingame
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2009, 06:02:14 AM »
I cannot make any recommendations on hardware.  It is best to ask that question in the "Hardware and Software" forum.
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Re: ingame
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2009, 11:34:53 AM »
Depending on if you have PCIe x16 or not, this should be a good card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141065


Great choice on memory.
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Re: ingame
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2009, 03:26:05 PM »
Listen to Denholm,



You need to make sure you have minimum processes running with your system. The Ram is a nice addition and the video card should be OK. You cannot get too good of a video card hence there will be what they call "bottlenecking". The CPU cannot keep up with the video card.  He has you on the right track  but do not expect the upgrades to run aces high on highest video settings. You will probably have to run your textures on 256 and play around with your anti-alias for best quality/performance. I would go for performance over quality.

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Re: ingame
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2009, 11:11:37 AM »
Depending on if you have PCIe x16 or not, this should be a good card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141065


Great choice on memory.
i dont know if i have a PCIe x16 or not
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Re: ingame
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2009, 11:12:49 AM »
Your computer is very old. There isn't much point in spending anymore money on it at this point. Save your money and get a cheap barebones computer (don't forget the graphics card.) You are already shopping on the right site. You can spend $400 and get a computer that will run the game for the next couple of years or spend $100 to keep yours running for the next couple of months. Its your choice.

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Re: ingame
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2009, 11:19:05 AM »
If you don't know what kind of slots are on your board, do not attempt to upgrade. Your computer is very old so the parts have become legacy so they will be more expensive and hard to find. You have to know exactly what type of RAM your computer holds before upgrading (PC ###??) and you need to know exactly what type of graphics slot you have. You also need to know the maximum amount of RAM your motherboard can hold. Be careful you don't waste your money.


FYI - I work with that model of computer at work (IT is my life.) Dell did not make that series easy to upgrade.

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Re: ingame
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2009, 12:54:20 PM »
i dont know if i have a PCIe x16 or not

I wouldn't spend the time and money to upgrade your computer either. You might want to get a hold of Tildeath. He builds them for a living, and might be able to hook you up with something decent.