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Offline hazed-

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« on: January 11, 2001, 10:16:00 PM »
just thought id tell you about some scoring with perks that maybe you'll want to change...

flew a ju88 to 22 (when the flak was deadly!)
managed to kill the 88's hit all the fuels the barracks and ammo bunkers and 1 or 2 acks(i think).I was then attacked by a spitIX and managed to down him suffering a loss of a flap then a 190 attacked and hit my engine(oil) and took an elevator but i managed to kill him too.Then running for home i flew near(i say near it was 2 specks   ) the enemy fleet and was killed by the 2nd burst of flak as i violently turned to avoid it.
Perks? 19.95! the most id scored and i thought this was pretty good.
Then i learned of much higher scores in the region of 35 for bombing factories so i tried it out.
flew a ju88 to training factory and bombed the tents, no 88's so no problem.dropped all the bombs scoring hits with all of them and then with 3 50kg's left i was shot down by a p51 and parachuted to the ground where  was captured.
Perks? 25
I was wondering if you would agree that this seems like a high score for such a seemingly less eventfull sortie?
I realise you must be trying to balance scoring so i thought id let you know about this.
In a previous post i mentioned that the TBM flight i undertook when i managed to torpedo the carrier and only scored 1.2 or something you said i might have a point about it being low scoring I was thinking that bombing factories with no flak to deal with and easy multiple targets should be looked into too.

hope this doesnt piss others off who probably want it to stay that way but i think harder missions should earn higher points or easier one lower (whatever).

hazed

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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2001, 03:23:00 AM »
Hi hazed!  

The reason why you got that many points is that Ju 88 is regarded as worst bomber to survive and and cause damage, ENY value is 40 (same as bf 109F-4 or other fighter plane that is rarely used) and OBJ value is 25 which is same as for any fighter and higher than any other bomber, for example lancaster has OBJ of 10.

Bombing barrack (factory) gives you nice points because you can kill several targets with single heavy bomb but it is an axception. Attack to any other factory does not give more than 15 points in Ju 88, even if you land. Believe me, I have flown Ju 88 lots this tour!

So, in Ju 88, usually 15 points for landed mission from factory, max 35 if target was barracks. Is this unreasonable when compared to other bombers? I don't know.

But I do know that Ju 88 has lowest K/D ratio of all bombers because of its small size and ineffective defensive armament. If you are attacked you are pretty much dead, I have been attacked some 5 - 7 times and everytime I have been killed without single kill caused.

If you compare the points gained by bombing factory to sinking a CV or even destroyer they are ridiculously high. TBM survival rate is very small and if the attack succeeds and, say, CV gets sunk it should provide truckload of points. Lets think about actual navies, how many CV's did Royal Navy have in beginning of war? I think something like 10. Then how many factories large there were in britain? Many! So killing CV is more important than damaging a factory which could be rebuilt.

Killing CV's (and capturing fields) should be rewarded much better! I think rewarding pilots who flies extremely rare and difficult to survive in bomber like Ju 88 rather than some 4 engined monster is ok like it is now.

These things will be surely adjusted, our job is to give feedback for those adjustments.

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2001, 07:59:00 PM »
thanx for the reply jochen and i totally agree with you.I didnt mean change scoreing for the different bombers, as you say its very hard to survive an attack from fighters in a ju88 and this was my point, as i posted 1 mission was a very tough one in which i managed to kill 2 fighters! and hit 2 fuels per 500kg (hitting between them) and basically closed a22 scoring 19 and the other a reletively simple one which im sure you'll agree, the training factory is, scored higher even with no fighter kills.Like you said im just trying to give feedback for htc to decide.

hazed