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Offline TwentyFo

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Rap Can Be Good
« on: February 05, 2009, 01:34:29 PM »
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Re: Rap, Can Be Good
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2009, 01:40:38 PM »
I hate rap for many reasons, lyrical content is one of them

I know not all rap has bad content, but the fact of the matter to me is that they shouldn't call them selves musicians, if they call them selves poets then I'm fine with it.

stealing music from rock songs or just making beats doesn't require much musical talent if any.

I've said this a million times, I'd like to see Kayne West or Jayzee or Lil Wayne or whoever explain to me chord progression, the pentatonic scale anything that is taught in the study of music, and they most likely can't.

It's just not music its poetry to a beat.
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Re: Rap, Can Be Good
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2009, 01:45:08 PM »
Rap is never good. Never. Live with it.  :D
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Re: Rap, Can Be Good
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2009, 01:52:55 PM »
I bought 2 rap records once. Pooped one 1 and covered it up with the other :aok.............werd up munny !
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Re: Rap, Can Be Good
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2009, 01:53:38 PM »
I hate rap for many reasons, lyrical content is one of them

I know not all rap has bad content, but the fact of the matter to me is that they shouldn't call them selves musicians, if they call them selves poets then I'm fine with it.

stealing music from rock songs or just making beats doesn't require much musical talent if any.

I've said this a million times, I'd like to see Kayne West or Jayzee or Lil Wayne or whoever explain to me chord progression, the pentatonic scale anything that is taught in the study of music, and they most likely can't.

It's just not music its poetry to a beat.

Who cares?

Chord progression or pentatonic scale....who really gives a crap. Music is Music. Me farting could be considered music. I make music using my car's turn blinker and my hands. Anyone can make music. Just like any art form, it is subject to how a person interprets it. You putting a definition to what music is and isn't is just plain stupid.

Approaching music as a "Science" is just ridiculous. How do you explain some of the tribal musicians that existed thousands of years before music was written? Do you think they were like, "Oh chit, we can't play this music because we don't know chord progression or pentatonic scale"?

Music is Music. That's all it is. Like I said before, when you put limitations on an art form it becomes very stagnate and boring. Some of the most famous and influential musicians were able to step outside of what was considered the "proper" way to write and play music.
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Re: Rap, Can Be Good
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2009, 01:58:05 PM »
I hate rap for many reasons, lyrical content is one of them

I know not all rap has bad content, but the fact of the matter to me is that they shouldn't call them selves musicians, if they call them selves poets then I'm fine with it.

stealing music from rock songs or just making beats doesn't require much musical talent if any.

I've said this a million times, I'd like to see Kayne West or Jayzee or Lil Wayne or whoever explain to me chord progression, the pentatonic scale anything that is taught in the study of music, and they most likely can't.

It's just not music its poetry to a beat.
Im curious if you have actually listened to a whole kayne or lil wayne album?
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Re: Rap Can Be Good
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2009, 02:19:02 PM »
Some crack dealer bought a recording studio, invited other crack dealers to come run their mouth to the microphone. They called it "rap music" :rolleyes:
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Re: Rap Can Be Good
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2009, 03:03:31 PM »
Del Pwns. Great music.
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Re: Rap, Can Be Good
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 03:17:09 PM »
Hard for me to say what I don't like about modern rap.  I like older/classic rock and reggae a ton, I listen to a variety from both all the time, but rap... I guess It has to do with much older long-retired gang-bangers who openly talk about how they have long wised up and figured out what they wanted to do with their life to make a living... by rapping about current 17-year old gangbangers who haven't figured out what they want to do with their future or how to make their living.  From that perspective, not only can I not listen to rap for more than a few seconds without taking it seriously, but I think myself and a lot more people would laugh histericaly and openly in these "artists" face if they didn't sing about killing a guy and not giving a damn about the type of person they are in every other song.
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Re: Rap, Can Be Good
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2009, 03:23:37 PM »
Who cares?

Chord progression or pentatonic scale....who really gives a crap. Music is Music. Me farting could be considered music. I make music using my car's turn blinker and my hands. Anyone can make music. Just like any art form, it is subject to how a person interprets it. You putting a definition to what music is and isn't is just plain stupid.

Approaching music as a "Science" is just ridiculous. How do you explain some of the tribal musicians that existed thousands of years before music was written? Do you think they were like, "Oh chit, we can't play this music because we don't know chord progression or pentatonic scale"?

Music is Music. That's all it is. Like I said before, when you put limitations on an art form it becomes very stagnate and boring. Some of the most famous and influential musicians were able to step outside of what was considered the "proper" way to write and play music.



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Re: Rap Can Be Good
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2009, 03:25:45 PM »
Aesop Rock
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Re: Rap Can Be Good
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2009, 03:34:11 PM »
Rap is wack!
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Re: Rap, Can Be Good
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2009, 04:15:55 PM »
Who cares?

Chord progression or pentatonic scale....who really gives a crap. Music is Music. Me farting could be considered music. I make music using my car's turn blinker and my hands. Anyone can make music. Just like any art form, it is subject to how a person interprets it. You putting a definition to what music is and isn't is just plain stupid.

Approaching music as a "Science" is just ridiculous. How do you explain some of the tribal musicians that existed thousands of years before music was written? Do you think they were like, "Oh chit, we can't play this music because we don't know chord progression or pentatonic scale"?

Music is Music. That's all it is. Like I said before, when you put limitations on an art form it becomes very stagnate and boring. Some of the most famous and influential musicians were able to step outside of what was considered the "proper" way to write and play music.

i give a crap because as someone who has studied and performed music all my life it's sickening to hear these guys call themselves musicians.

The african drummers are muscians because they actually play the drums and use the instrument to express themselves.

Rap music is spoken word to a beat, they don't even try to be in any kind of key.

Music is a science, until you understand that you shouldn't be arguing with me. People have been making music for over a thousand years using the concepts of the ancient greeks (scales and what have you) and it has managed to grow and reinvent itself and not get stagnate.

Yes there is a beat in rap music, but the rapper I'm sure has no clue what rythmic pattern it is (4/4 3/4 etc)  so the only actual musical aspect to their "songs" I'm sure they have no clue the science and pattern behind it.

Once again, it's poetry with a beat, its not sung, its spoken. Poets have done this for years and they don't call it music, they call it poetry.

Yes music can be poetry, but not rap because there is no musical skill involved to become a rapper, you just need to know how to use a beat machine and throw together whatever you want without any thought or knowledge of what it is exactly you're doing.
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Re: Rap Can Be Good
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2009, 05:15:00 PM »
There are plenty of "Rappers" who have bands.

I saw a show at Metropol in Pittsburgh back in 2003. It had four big acts, every single group had guitars and drums keyboards and turntables. You may not know any of the groups, but it was Gangstarr and DJ Premiere, Common, Twalib Kwali and a few others.

Besides the Vocalists aka "Rappers", everyone on stage had a musical instrument.
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Re: Rap Can Be Good
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2009, 05:25:40 PM »
Aesop pwns.
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