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190-9A
« on: February 06, 2009, 01:28:00 PM »
Fw 190 A-9
The Fw 190 A-9 was the last A-model produced, and was first built in September 1944. The A-9 was fitted with the new BMW 801S, called the 801 TS or 801 TH when shipped as a “power-egg”, or Kraftei, engine (an aircraft engine installation format embraced by the Luftwaffe for a number of engine types on operational aircraft, in part for easy field replacement) rated at 2,000 PS (1,973 hp, 1,471 kW); the more powerful 2,400 PS (2,367 hp, 1,765 kW) BMW 801F-1 was not available. The armour on the front annular cowling, which also incorporated the oil tank, was upgraded from the 6 mm on earlier models to 10 mm. The 12 blade cooling fan was initially changed to a 14 blade fan but it consumed more power to operate and did not really improve cooling thus BMW reverted back to the 12 blade fan. The cowling of the A-9 was also slightly longer than that of the previous Anton's due to the use of a larger, more efficient annular radiator for the oil system. The bubble canopy design with the larger head armour was fitted as standard. Three types of propeller were authorised for use on the A-9: the VDM 9-112176A wooden propeller, 11' 6" in diameter, was the preferred option however many A-9s were fitted with the standard VDM 9-12067A metal propeller and some had a VDM 9-12153A metal propeller with external, bolt on balance weights.[21] The A-9 was also designed originally as an assault aircraft, so the wing leading edges were to have been armoured; however this did not make it past the design stage in order to save weight. The A-9 was very similar to the A-8 in regards to the armament and Rüstsätze kits. A total of 910 A-9s were built between April 1944 and May 1945, mostly in Focke Wulf's Cottbus factory.[22][14]


I know that there where only 17 develop with only 11 in used. But this would be a nice addition.

Fw 190 D-11
17 Fw 190 D-11s were known to have been manufactured. This version was fitted with the uprated Jumo 213E series engine which was also used in the Ta-152 H series. Changes over the D-9 were the enlarged supercharger air-intake on the starboard side cowling and the use of a wooden, broad-bladed VS 9 or 10 propeller unit utilizing three 9-27012 C-1 blades with a diameter of 3.6 meters. The 13 mm fuselage guns were removed, and the cowling redesigned and by omitting the gun troughs was changed to a flat profile. Two 30 mm MK 108 cannons were installed in the outer wings to complement the 20 mm MG 151s in the inboard positions. Of the 17 Dora-11s delivered, three can be accounted for. One, the best-known, was Rote 4 (red 4) of JV 44's Platzschutz unit. Another, white chevron, was found at München-Riem, and may have served with JV 44 after serving at the Verbandsführerschule General der Jagdflieger (Training School for Unit Leaders) at Bad Wörishofen; it is not known if it was actually used operationally. A third, "white <61," was also found after the war at the Verbandsfuehrerschule General der Jagdflieger.[37]

While the D-11 was under manufacture, work started on the Fw 190 D-12 and D-13 models. The D-12 and D-13s were based on the D-11 design, however the D-12 and D-13 were fitted with Motorkanone nose cannons firing through the propeller hub (the D-12 would be fitted with a MK 108 30 mm cannon and the D-13 would be fitted with a MG 151/20 20 mm cannon). There were three test aircraft built for the D-12 line, V63, V64 and V65 but no production aircraft were built.

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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2009, 02:31:10 PM »
The A9 seems acceptable.

The D11 is out there. It had combat service and saw squadron strength (to a point).
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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2009, 03:27:25 PM »
<-- All in favor of a new Anton with production numbers approaching 1,000.

Dora-11?  Long shot, I think.

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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2009, 02:21:36 AM »
<-- All in favor of a new Anton with production numbers approaching 1,000.

Dora-11?  Long shot, I think.
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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2009, 07:32:41 AM »
I think we have enough 190s for now, but should definately be added in a few years maybe. I think HTC should expand on the Yak series for example first.

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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2009, 08:40:48 AM »
well the thing is that the fw190's got updated already, so no chance they introduce a new variant anytime soon.

Even so It would be cool, I like 190's  :aok
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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2009, 09:38:36 AM »
What we really need is an earlier Fw190, not a later one.  Right now we don't have any Fw190 from the period when it dominated the Spitfire Mk V.  Our Spitfire Mk IX is an earlier aircraft than our Fw190A-5.
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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2009, 10:42:32 AM »
What we really need is an earlier Fw190, not a later one.

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How about an A-3?
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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2009, 11:56:10 AM »
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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2009, 01:33:09 PM »
You know, the funny thing about these requests is the public perception that a 190A-3 would be superfluous.  "Not another 109!"  "Not another Spitfire!" etc.

The mistake is that variations on some aircraft are just as important as a totally different aircraft.  That's easy to see when you compare our Spitfire VIII to the XVI; the latter might as well be a different airplane.

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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2009, 02:16:24 PM »
+1

How about an A-3?

Agreed I'd like to see earlier versions of the 190 A1, A2, or A3.

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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2009, 11:14:34 PM »
What we really need is an earlier Fw190, not a later one.  Right now we don't have any Fw190 from the period when it dominated the Spitfire Mk V.  Our Spitfire Mk IX is an earlier aircraft than our Fw190A-5.
+2  ummmmm 190A-2.  The A-3 came out in 1942.
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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2009, 02:38:22 PM »
I'm all for it.
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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2009, 04:17:02 PM »
That's easy to see when you compare our Spitfire VIII to the XVI; the latter might as well be a different airplane.

And yet... Their performance curves are 99.9% identical. They only diverge slightly as alt increases. The only major difference being roll rate for the spixteen.

I'd like an earlier model 190A, don't get me wrong! I'm just saying it's not "that" much different from a 190a5. Remove the WGrs and it's pretty close, save for skinning options.

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Re: 190-9A
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2009, 04:34:44 PM »
I'm sorry guys. Yeah yeah, I can say we need an He-111, an Oscar, etc, in the same way I can say I need to eat my vegetables...but a 190A variant heavier armed than the A-5, less piggish than our A-8, and capable of nearly 360mph on the deck, generally more competitive in the MA, is something I can say I want in the way I want some BBQ ribs. And more exciting to me than plugging an early war hole.
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