*S* BISH - Nice listening in to our missions.

[96Delta]

More of a one-sided ass-kicking than a furball for a good part of the fight, though.

LOL! yea!  We whooped 'em!
Even earlier, when we were in Tiffies and heavy, and they
had an alt advantage, we creamed 'em!

Yup, seems like, in an even fight, they have no chance at all. 

[Sincraft]

I promise you if you were flying with us you would understand.  I can't describe it very well as it's late.

An no the screenies DO NOT give it justice.  No screenies of us grouped up or at the merge!?!?

I realized film wasn't rolling about halfway through the battle, and it's STILL a huge file.  

At any one time at least 10 within fighting range of each other.

Unfortunately about 25% of our guys allowed themselves to be lulled into the diving kill and pulled toward the mid alt fight.

[96Delta]

I promise you if you were flying with us you would understand.  I can't describe it very well as it's late.

An no the screenies DO NOT give it justice.  No screenies of us grouped up or at the merge!?!?

I realized film wasn't rolling about halfway through the battle, and it's STILL a huge file.  

At any one time at least 10 within fighting range of each other.

Unfortunately about 25% of our guys allowed themselves to be lulled into the diving kill and pulled toward the mid alt fight.

No sin, I have a crappy PC and getting decent screenies is tough.
Would like to see some more though.

I know that there was no FSO tonight but dang, it sure
felt like one!   

BTW, the March [MoM] will be a coordinated affair between the
Rooks and the Bishops and it will feature a gargantuan
furball for people into that sort of thing.  More on that later! 

[Sincraft]

LOL! yea!  We whooped 'em!
Even earlier, when we were in Tiffies and heavy, and they
had an alt advantage, we creamed 'em!

Yup, seems like, in an even fight, they have no chance at all. 

Ask limbo.  He often gets missions going where we meet up at a certain point with the bish.  Say 15-20 vs 15-20.  all of us in one plane all of them in one plane.  Usually we are outnumbered by at least 5 planes and leave with at least half our planes left.

Superior pilots, maybe not.  But I think our little rag tag group of mixed up squads seem to have our stuff together a bit, alot more to learn though. *S*

[Oldman731]

All in all it was about 10 missions tonight where it seemed like they KNEW we were coming. 

I'm just scratching my head that you would complain about this.  Didn't you get a fight out of it?

- oldman

[96Delta]

PIGS ON A SPIT   

[96Delta]

I'm just scratching my head that you would complain about this.  Didn't you get a fight out of it?

- oldman

Hi oldman,

You misunderstand. Its not a complaint, its a vindication.
Second, who's complaining.  I just think its poor gamesmanship.

Don't you?

Finally, it doesn't reflect badly on us.
We made the best of their cheating and turned it
into a fight that we won so, in the end, they
not only cheated, but they lost too.

Why people on these boards criticize those who decry cheating
escapes me.  Its just like the world I guess.  Bizarro world.

[E25280]

Why people on these boards criticize those who decry cheating
escapes me.  Its just like the world I guess.  Bizarro world.

People criticize because those who cry "spy" usually do so without any meaningful evidence let alone proof.

LMAO -- you were flying large numbers of aircraft at altitude, creating a large dar bar -- and you don't think that would attract attention?  Sheesh.

And why not 20K?  They knew it was Rooks coming . . .

Pick less predictable targets if you are looking to avoid a fight.

[Chalenge]

I was having a pretty good fight down south until this whining started.

[Anaxogoras]

You encountered opposition?  Sounds like a lot of fun!

[Buzzard7]

Wow the pigs were spying? Here I thought it was just one of our guys watching from above you. Could of sworn I saw his dot near your raids calling us to them.

By the way your typh raid did not cream us. I believe you never got into the radar circle. After that we heard about your little 205 raid and came up to fight there. We didn't do as well with that fight. Probably the altitude disadvantage did us in but we cleaned your flight up and it was nothing but green left over our carrier.

[trotter]

Honestly, you guys want a base capture game? Try Age of Empires. This is just getting pathetic.

[Getback]

If you use a numerical squad channel people can hop on it and you won't know they are there unless they also type it in the vox or you see their orange, or what color you have set, squad icon. I would suggest you just set the radio to squad for missions. When I was with RT we caught several people on our text channel while not on our voice channel. The only reason we caught them was that they goofed up and typed unintentionally on the text channel. RT eventually changed channels.

I'm really glad you posted this issue for better or worse. For the last 3 camps I have felt there has been much more of this than in the past. I've just seen way too many times where a guy looks like he's protecting a base but isn't. There are folks who can back me up on this. The other day I was defending a vbase with my turret pointed to the spawn point. What does the m3 do. He lets out troops behind me and was completely out of sight. I see them in time and they don't get the base but I honestly believe someone was in the tower giving him instructions. Then a few minutes later I see someone just sitting in a Werble while the town is being taken down at a different base.  I have many more examples but these two will suffice.  I know the RT had experienced the same thing as you and I believe the jokers as well. Maybe it's all just coincidence. I can't prove nothing.

Now for those who say well you should be glad you ran into opposition and had a fight. Well that is all well and good except now you know the plane type the alt and the path. The mission then is at a severe disadvantage and the element of surprise is gone. Further, if some one is spying in a tower giving locations of enemy defense that certainly is a huge advantage to the other country and helps them avoid contact or least seek some advantage they wouldn't have had without that information.

Now on the issue of base captures that is old and tired. You can get 50 pages of squabble if you want to go there. I'm not.

[WMLute]

When with your squad, always use SQUAD channel.

When in a mission, always use MISSION channel.

BUT it sounded like you got some nice fights out of it, so that is a plus.

[jollyFE]

It's not unheard of for other countries to hear a vox (below 200 ) chan.  A few years back we had a day or 2 of the Nits being able to hear our vox, they couldn't talk or type to us excet type on 200.  Was weird and they were cool about and didn't exploit it for nefarious purposes.

Not sure how it happens, but it seems that it does every so often.