Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?

[Serenity]

How do you manage this?!? A Guided Missile Cruiser gets stuck on the reef! I saw it from school early yesterday and knew something was wrong. Saw this on the news later last night. (Work Safe)

http://kgmb9.com/main/content/view/13886/40/

"Obviously the desire was not to run aground..." -Ships Captain

I don't know if they mentioned it in these two videos, but the ship JUST got out of dry-dock (Only a month or so ago IIRC) which ran $18mil over budget!

[caldera]

Captain Hazelwood at it again?

[nirvana]

Due to tidal fluctuations and the ever changing environment it's always possible to run aground no matter how many charts or GPS units you have.  Remember those are all managed by humans at some level thus there is always room for error.  It's the same situation with aircraft, you read your instruments wrong or there is an error with your equipment and unfortunate events can occur.  It doesn't matter how new or high tech something is, there is always room the chance for error.

[Serenity]

Due to tidal fluctuations and the ever changing environment it's always possible to run aground no matter how many charts or GPS units you have.  Remember those are all managed by humans at some level thus there is always room for error.  It's the same situation with aircraft, you read your instruments wrong or there is an error with your equipment and unfortunate events can occur.  It doesn't matter how new or high tech something is, there is always room the chance for error.

That may be, but to run aground in calm seas like that, with all of the depth-finding equipment a modern cruiser is equiped with is pathetic. The waters the ship was conducting the operation in were only 2.5 feet deeper than the ships keel at HIGH tide. A margin far too slim to risk a ship like that in.

[Masherbrum]

Due to tidal fluctuations and the ever changing environment it's always possible to run aground no matter how many charts or GPS units you have.  Remember those are all managed by humans at some level thus there is always room for error.  It's the same situation with aircraft, you read your instruments wrong or there is an error with your equipment and unfortunate events can occur.  It doesn't matter how new or high tech something is, there is always room the chance for error.

Excellent post Nirvana, I hope all is well with you.

Serenity, ask Nilsen, he has personal knowledge on this type of stuff.   

[Frodo]

Serenity, ask Nilsen, he has personal knowledge on this type of stuff.   

  

[Nilsen]

Its very simple gents.

If rock and ship is at the same position they will hug no matter how excellent the skipper is 

[Serenity]

26 hours later, the ship is still sitting there. They FINALLY decided tonight that if they cannot get her off, they will try removing fuel from her tanks to lose about 200 tons of weight.

[Masherbrum]

Its very simple gents.

If rock and ship is at the same position they will hug no matter how excellent the skipper is 

 

[nirvana]

Like I said in my post, even the most high tech technology can't prevent a ship from grounding because of human error.  Here's an example from a few years ago up here about a cruise ship grounding: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003708404_webship15m.html

Empress of the North appeared to have hit a mapped and lighted rock early Monday morning.

It happens fairly regularly; people don't pay attention, instruments fail, wrong charts, weather etc.  I don't know what is so incredulous about this particular case.

[REP0MAN]

It happens fairly regularly; people don't pay attention, instruments fail, wrong charts, weather etc.  I don't know what is so incredulous about this particular case.

It happened in Serenity's direct view?

[RTHolmes]

Like I said in my post, even the most high tech technology can't prevent a ship from grounding because of human error.

and training is what eliminates human error - its not like it was crewed by a bunch of drunk guys on a fishing trip 
i think they need to learn the 6 Ps: Proper Preparation Prevents Piss-Poor Performance

[rogwar]

I'll bet somebody was "relieved" and I don't mean in a relaxing sort of way.

[Serenity]

I don't know what is so incredulous about this particular case.

The fact that a multi-billion dollar top-of-the-line military ship could have wound up like this. I know it happens, but that doesn't stop it from being just... retarded.

[Nilsen]

Windows for warships?

No wait.. thats the royal navy