Author Topic: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?  (Read 1206 times)

Offline RTR

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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2009, 07:09:01 PM »
It might have been an act of terrorism.

You guys better go "liberate" some 3rd world banana republic, just in case.

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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2009, 07:26:56 PM »
You betcha the captain is looking at a court martial, as well as the officer of the deck.  The navy is VERY unforgiving of running their ships into stuff, including other ships, Hawaii, or whatever.  Neither officer will ever serve on board a naval vessel again.  Not never, no way.


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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2009, 07:29:10 PM »
It might have been an act of terrorism.

You guys better go "liberate" some 3rd world banana republic, just in case.

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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2009, 07:41:58 PM »
Like my friends dad used to say...

"only the Navy could do something like this"

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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2009, 07:43:48 PM »
The problem appears to be that there are no windows in the ship, therefore they could not see where they where going.
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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2009, 03:51:52 AM »
There is actually no excuse for it. A career ending situation if I ever saw one for someone.

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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2009, 08:23:13 AM »
I've put my sail boat aground a few times, it was always a navigation error on my part, fortunely it was always soft sand and i got it unstuck without assistance.

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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2009, 11:48:54 AM »
I have no idea how this could have happened.  I have been through that channel alot on the same type of ship and find it hard to believe no one saw the reef.  The water where they are is crystal clear and your can see down a loooong way.  The draft of the ship is only 30 some odd feet and I know you can clearly see the bottom at that depth.  It amazes me with the bridge team, lookouts (everywhere on sea and anchor detail), CIC doing radar fixes, and lots of people looking at charts, they STILL hit it.  The best part is that an admiral was on board when it happened...oops

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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2009, 12:58:55 PM »
That may be, but to run aground in calm seas like that, with all of the depth-finding equipment a modern cruiser is equiped with is pathetic. The waters the ship was conducting the operation in were only 2.5 feet deeper than the ships keel at HIGH tide. A margin far too slim to risk a ship like that in.

Not to long ago a submarine collided with an undersea mountain.  Everyone was like you, saying with our technology and advanced navigation systems, it should never happened.  Until that is when it came out that the navigation chart that was being used didn't show the undersea mountain and the captain was cleared of any wrong doing.


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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2009, 01:06:07 PM »
Captain Hazelwood at it again?

lol.  You know that situation with that oil spill was not all Hazelwood at fault.
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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2009, 01:33:37 PM »
I have no idea how this could have happened. 

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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2009, 02:22:21 PM »
Not to long ago a submarine collided with an undersea mountain.  Everyone was like you, saying with our technology and advanced navigation systems, it should never happened.  Until that is when it came out that the navigation chart that was being used didn't show the undersea mountain and the captain was cleared of any wrong doing.


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Of course not Ack-ack...charts for the undersea floor are notoriously bad.........

I mean, except for the sea floor that is a mile away from PACFLT headquarters.  I imagine those charts are probably updated for that inlet pretty regular.  In fact, I'm pretty certain they update the hazards there once or twice per day.... whoever was the OoD did more than "cut the corner" on the channel.

I mean I'm just a biologist and all..... but there are waves breaking in the news pics, only another 100 feet or so in.  Albeit, the tidal difference factored in, (not very big as Hawaii lies closer to the equator than say...Norfolk) there is absolutely no reason to miss a shipping channel that badly, in calm seas, on a billion dollar warship.  With an admiral onboard.  (Someone just lost his commission.)

Sidenote:
Wasn't this ship the one involved with those Iranian powerboats in the Gulf a year or so ago?  I'm going to look it up but I think I remember it being this ship in particular.
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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2009, 03:27:40 PM »
You betcha the captain is looking at a court martial, as well as the officer of the deck.  The navy is VERY unforgiving of running their ships into stuff, including other ships, Hawaii, or whatever.  Neither officer will ever serve on board a naval vessel again.  Not never, no way.


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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2009, 03:37:43 PM »
"Obviously the desire was not to run aground..." -Ships Captain

Did someone promote John Madden to captain?   "You know it comes down to scoring points.  If you score more points, you're gonna win the game."

*facepalm*

Really though, that waste of a sports commentator was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this post.  Also, in order to prevent a full hijacking, I will note that I find the whole reef > large ship situation is pretty funny :) 

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Re: Ooops... Where did that ocean floor come from?!?
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2009, 05:43:17 PM »
lol.  You know that situation with that oil spill was not all Hazelwood at fault.

The hell it wasn't.
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