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Offline Max

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Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« on: February 08, 2009, 09:24:08 AM »
My current system runs an EVGA Geforce 7600GT 256 mg card which runs AH quite nicely at 1920 x 1200 res.

Given the upcoming rendering upgrades, I suspect I'll be needing a bit more graphics horsepower. Using a budget of $150 +/- I see a lot of options out there...especially on the Radeon side of the road.

I'm up for any ideas for a replacement  but would tend to rely more on those suggestions stemming from a card you are actually using.

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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2009, 11:54:21 AM »
I generally go by what this site recommends since it breaks the products down into price ranges and they do a lot of benchmarking.  They update it every month (not sure why February isn't done yet).
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2118.html

Best PCIe Card For $115 : Tie

Good 1600x1200 performance in most games; 1920x1200 in most titles with some lowered detail
Radeon HD 4830 Codename:    RV770LE
Process:    55 nm
Universal Shaders:    640
Texture Units:    32
ROPs:    16
Memory Bus:    256-bit
Core Speed MHz:    575
Memory Speed MHz:    900 (1,800 effective)
DirectX/Shader Model:    DX 10.1/SM 4.0
The new Radeon HD 4830 finally gives AMD something to compete against the legendary GeForce 8800 GT (as well as its identical sibling, the 9800 GT). Just as the 8800 GT is a crippled 8800 GTS, the Radeon HD 4830 is a crippled HD 4850. Both cards are excellent, while one winning over the other depends on the game or the image-quality settings.

GeForce 9800 GT (aka 8800 GT 512 MB)
Codename:    G92
Process:    65 nm
Universal Shaders:    112
Texture Units:    56
ROPs:    16
Memory Bus:    256-bit
Core Speed MHz:    600
Memory Speed MHz:    900 (1,800 effective)
DirectX/Shader Model:    DX 10/SM 4.0

While the Radeon HD 4830 offers the 8800/9800 GT its first competition in its price class, the card remains a strong contender and is still a viable option. However, it has been reported that some 9800 GTs have been found in the wild with 3-way SLI support.

PCIe Interface: $150 To $240
Best PCIe Card For $150 :

Good 1920x1200 performance in most games, some with lowered detail

Radeon HD 4850 512 MB
Codename:    RV770
Process:    55 nm
Universal Shaders:    800
Texture Units:    40
ROPs:    16
Memory Bus:    256-bit
Core Speed MHz:    625
Memory Speed MHz:    993 (1,986 effective)
DirectX / Shader Model:    DX 10.1/SM 4.0

The Radeon HD 4850 is the new people’s champion, instantly bringing yesterday’s $300 performance level down to the mainstream $160 price point. This card has a lot of potential when used on its own, and becomes a devastating force when paired with a second 4850 in a CrossFire configuration.

Best PCIe Card For $170 :

Good 1920x1200 performance in most games, some with lowered detail

Radeon HD 4850 1 GB
Codename:    RV770
Process:    55 nm
Universal Shaders:    800
Texture Units:    40
ROPs:    16
Memory Bus:    256-bit
Core Speed MHz:    625
Memory Speed MHz:    993 (1,986 effective)
DirectX/Shader Model:    DX 10.1/SM 4.0

For a few dollars over the base-model Radeon 4850, a 1 GB version is available. While raw performance is not all that different, the extra video RAM is helpful in some situations and with some game titles.
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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2009, 10:31:47 PM »
Fulmar has some good cards in place for you but I still prefer NVIDIA chipset over the ATI.  They run cooler for the most part and are a lot quicker to release driver updates.  If you really check about you can get an EVGA, XFX and other 9800GTX+'s in the price range your seeking for instance

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130420

To name a few

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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2009, 10:39:17 PM »
I myself prefer Nvidia's chipsets over the years as well.  I haven't owned an ATI product since 1996.  Though my torrent computer has a cheap 9200 that I got for free.
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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2009, 11:35:57 PM »
I've got an 512 8800 GTS and would probably buy the 9800 GTX+ if I were buying it today.  It should be close to your price range.  They are very similar cards.

I'm running 1680x1050 res locked to my refresh rate (59 fps) at full game graphic settings using high res textures, 16x antialiasing and 16x anistropic filtering and nothing slows my frame rates.
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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2009, 08:13:51 AM »
Thanks for the input gents. As Pyro's suggested, I'll wait and see what kind of performance hit I get with the new graphics before upgrading.

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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2009, 07:45:37 PM »
ATI in crossfire and Nvidea in SLI only give a 20-40% performance gain depending on the application and overclocking of a system. If one would spend 2x the amount on 2 video cards such as 4850, they would be better spending another $100 on a 4870 x 2. Same goes with Nvidea. A  8800 SLI, 9800 or even 9800GTX. The GTX280, 285 and 290 will outperform any card specified earlier in SLI. Fulmar is right you will get more performance but being a devastating force over the benchmarks of a 4870 x 2 ?? GTX 280, 285 or 290 and 4870 x 2 SLI or Crossfired respectably would be a devastating force! Another thing to consider with going Crossfire or SLI is potential problems. Some have had problems with Crossfire and SLI. I am not saying it is an everyday problem but some have had issues.

As far as Aces High, anything above the ATI 3870 or Nvidea 8800 will be more than ample with a decent CPU. There are some great buys on video cards out there as Fulmar posted earlier in this thread. Real decent cards can be bought between $50 and $150 by either ATI or NVidea!
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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2009, 12:38:54 PM »
Somethings wrong or Im missing something, are they saying that you can get an 8800GT for $115?  Two please!  Look at the add on Toms page in the upper right hand corner 8800GT for $277.!!
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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2009, 12:41:37 PM »
Somethings wrong or Im missing something, are they saying that you can get an 8800GT for $115?  Two please!  Look at the add on Toms page in the upper right hand corner 8800GT for $277.!!

You can get a 9800 GT (which replaced the 8800 GT) for just over $100.
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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2009, 12:43:34 PM »
Yikes,
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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2009, 12:57:22 PM »
I might take a look for an XFX 8800GT Alpha Dog Edition for SLI
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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2009, 03:51:19 PM »
I just installed the radeon hd 4870 and the graphics are awesome.. able to hook my hd tv directly to it...only drawback... when using my headset the audio comes from tv and the voice has to come from my headset placed around my neck. FYI I bought it at Best Buy for 180.00

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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2009, 04:05:41 PM »
ebfd11, if audio is coming from the TV and you wish it to come from the Headset simply change the Default Audio input/output.  As such:

Long way>
Start-Control Panel-Sound and Audio devices-Audio Tab Change the Sound playback Default Device.
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Re: Nvidea vs Radeion Gpx cards
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2009, 12:41:49 AM »
Somethings wrong or Im missing something, are they saying that you can get an 8800GT for $115?  Two please!  Look at the add on Toms page in the upper right hand corner 8800GT for $277.!!


LOL. You can get ATI 3870 less than that and it outperforms the 8800GT and if you read Baldeagle's response you can get 9800GT for about the same price.
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