DON'T WHINE ANYMORE!!!!!

[Bronk]

I must admit, I do.

LMFAO

You wont even meet me in the DA 1 on 1. You wanna try 4?

Oww my sides hurt.... gota catch my breath. Bwwwaaahahahaahaha

[SlapShot]

I think the whole 'announcing a mission' thing is making the assumptions that a) The enemy is somehow organized and will launch a structured counter assault and b) The enemy cares.  I was on when Joker was telling rooks mission plans but I was already engaged in a good fight elsewhere and didn't give a hoot.  I guess I didn't feel like bailing from my flight and rushing over to the cartoon base that was in trouble and getting ganged by 15k assault fighters.

Grizz ... Joker and his boys took a beating in the other thread and were slapped in the face, repeatedly, that they can only do what they do by sneaky means (NOE) and if they ever came up against an equal force, they would have their arses handed to them.

Well it looks like Joker was willing to test that theory and, as far as I am concerned, really put it out there by actually broadcasting his intentions. So at that point the ball was in the "other" court and it was up to them to prove Joker wrong.

If the country is not organized ... that's not Joker's fault ... and with that, it wouldn't matter then if he ran his missions NOE or out in the open because the country that he attacked really sucks at repelling attacks.

If the country doesn't care ... so be it, but any and all from that country (and there have been plenty from all countries in the other thread) that jump into these types of discussions and whines about larger squads and how they play the game need to be silent ... they have no legs to stand on.

If people in the country don't give a hoot ... so be it, but from this point on, they (not necessarily you) need to zip it if they feel the need to berate Joker and his squad on how they play this game.

[SlapShot]

38's on  one engine.

I'm curious just how "fair" a fight has to be before certain people would participate.

Goons don't fly at 8k... a mission without goons is like a day without sunshine. I just fail to see how even a small handful of guys couldn't bust up a 17 plane group who had announced launch location, alt, and destination.  All those planes at 8k+ were probably heavy so they had to come down.. oh geez I could go on and on. Frankly, going up to 10-12k doesn't take too long.  30 guys at 8k announcing where they are going sounds like an all-you-can-eat smorgasboard with a big "open for business" sign on it.

No kidding ... Can't tell you how many times I have seen a 20+ plane mission go to crap once the goon(s) have been eliminated. You can actually see the posture of the attack change in an instant.

[Bronk]

Got to give joker credit where it's due. Well done.

[Getback]

I saw 4 or 5 dar bars of knits at 110 and surrounding sectors last night. I don't recall anyone complaining about that on country channel. Instead they were focusing on what needed to be done to defend the base. Giving check 6s, alerting folks of the condition of the town. I ran 2 loads of supplies to the town and was straffed both times. When I left that battle had been going on for about 5 hours and it started before I got there. Meanwhile Rooks were taking Knits bases left and right.

[Bosco123]

Oh I love these threads.

Falconwing, that probably sums it up right there. Your post is greatly appreciated.

Funny thing is, evidence is right in front of you. No, it was not a 40+ mission, it was only 17. We started with only 85 Bish and yet, people still continue to whine. I think you guys need someone that can sit there and read a map like the back of their hand, much like the people that we have.
I know most of you talk about 1v1 fights and that's all you want, when really, your chances of getting a 1v1 is getting slimmer by the month, and that's not going to get any better. We are a growing community, and our popularity is growing larger. We are getting more and more people involved in AH, and there not getting the proper training.
We do all that we can to get these people better. We ask people to go to the TA, or we try and help them as best as we can. Sad part is, most of the guys in my squad don't really want to know about 1v1s, rather, they want to learn how to defend themselves from pickers and gangers.
Uptown, I know you are a great stick. I know that Skat is a great stick. I know that 95% of your squad is great sticks, but what frightens me is, you have all of your "good people" wing up and gang just as much as you complain about it. I have said this before and I'm going to say it again, everytime I have fought you, you always have somebody with you to help you as much as you can. I remeber  clearly one time when I got up to 15K, and you, Skat, lucky and a few other people we 16+ in front of me. I got killed after I engaged one and got picked by another. I was in a G14 and said on 200. "nice gang guys" and Skat said, "I didn't know that a G14 couldn't turn with a pony." It took me 5 times to finally get you guys down and had 3 people help me out.
What I'm trying to say is, you may complain very much about ganging and 1v1s, but in actuality, your not.
I think I should make this a quote so that everytime one of these post comes along, I can refer to the sig: My offer still stands, anybody who wants to fight me can, I'm not asking this for a purse fight, rather that it might help me get better in the future. I enjoy 1v1 fights, but I'm not getting that in the MA.
Oh Bronk, thanks for the post .

[oTRALFZo]

Twentyfo called out sick today so I had to fill in...I think Rolling Thunder is wayy better than the Jokers

[LYNX]

Oh yes he is,,,, He does in fact have it right but up to a point, after that it gets dicey.

2 passes? I did in fact turn away and was heading back to my base,,, I was full of fuel and was on a search for the CV in the area when I ran into him in a yak, and yes I was also trying to run him out of fuel by dragging him to my field.  

He took care of my spit easily and engaged the 51, however when I returned he then stayed in the ack of CV which I bravely endured until the oh so accurate puffy ack took me out twice, awarding Lynx the kills.  

Knowing, that he was now running to his base to land I continued the chase and yes I was thoroughly jumped, and dont mind at all.  Its all in the fun.  However, I did not run away no matter how many uppers came to the rescue.
So,,,, your point was....

The point was that after 2 passes you, to quote

I did in fact turn away and was heading back to my base

and yes I was also trying to run him out of fuel by dragging him to my field

.

lol trying to run me out of fuel ...for what? so you didn't have to fight me?  That's the  irony when we take into context your original smart arsed quote which I replied to--->

Nobody wants to fight,,, no matter how you do it, there is an excuse.

Perhaps the only thing in need of rescue around here is the ego.....good luck with that.

 

[Bronk]

Oh I love these threads.

Falconwing, that probably sums it up right there. Your post is greatly appreciated.

Funny thing is, evidence is right in front of you. No, it was not a 40+ mission, it was only 17. We started with only 85 Bish and yet, people still continue to whine. I think you guys need someone that can sit there and read a map like the back of their hand, much like the people that we have.
I know most of you talk about 1v1 fights and that's all you want, when really, your chances of getting a 1v1 is getting slimmer by the month, and that's not going to get any better. We are a growing community, and our popularity is growing larger. We are getting more and more people involved in AH, and there not getting the proper training.
We do all that we can to get these people better. We ask people to go to the TA, or we try and help them as best as we can. Sad part is, most of the guys in my squad don't really want to know about 1v1s, rather, they want to learn how to defend themselves from pickers and gangers.
Uptown, I know you are a great stick. I know that Skat is a great stick. I know that 95% of your squad is great sticks, but what frightens me is, you have all of your "good people" wing up and gang just as much as you complain about it. I have said this before and I'm going to say it again, everytime I have fought you, you always have somebody with you to help you as much as you can. I remeber  clearly one time when I got up to 15K, and you, Skat, lucky and a few other people we 16+ in front of me. I got killed after I engaged one and got picked by another. I was in a G14 and said on 200. "nice gang guys" and Skat said, "I didn't know that a G14 couldn't turn with a pony." It took me 5 times to finally get you guys down and had 3 people help me out.
What I'm trying to say is, you may complain very much about ganging and 1v1s, but in actuality, your not.
I think I should make this a quote so that everytime one of these post comes along, I can refer to the sig: My offer still stands, anybody who wants to fight me can, I'm not asking this for a purse fight, rather that it might help me get better in the future. I enjoy 1v1 fights, but I'm not getting that in the MA.
Oh Bronk, thanks for the post .

It's all part of my evil scheme to get you all to play my way.

[1pLUs44]

 

[FALCONWING]

I wasn't on for this...but knowing the bish.

1.) Come in with 8K+ of alt
2.) Have more than 30 guys
3.) All in cannon/50cal with lots of ammo planes

Frankly, I wouldn't have upped either. I would have rather been at a fairer fight.

Did someone from Wings of Terror really type this with a straight face?  I'll add a few more bullets for ya:

4.  deacked the field
5.  killed the vh
6.  suppress uppers even though the town hasn't been touched (unless someone needs a capture for score)

I find it comical this squad is the one who changed their Squad name to Jokers Pokers...the irony is not lost on everyone

[TwentyFo]

yes I was also trying to run him out of fuel by dragging him to my field.  

Hmmm...Is there any way we could go to the training arena so I could learn this wonderful "run the guy outta gas" tactic? I bet you guys have it down to an art form.

[Banshee7]

Ok...that's one of the best things 24 has typed on these boards in a while....I give him credit on that one

[Lusche]

Hmmm...Is there any way we could go to the training arena so I could learn this wonderful "run the guy outta gas" tactic? I bet you guys have it down to an art form.

Actually I do that quite a lot on La-7s... leads to much more entertaining results on CH200 or PM

[Banshee7]

Did someone from Wings of Terror really type this with a straight face?  I'll add a few more bullets for ya:

4.  deacked the field
5.  killed the vh
6.  suppress uppers even though the town hasn't been touched (unless someone needs a capture for score)

I find it comical this squad is the one who changed their Squad name to Jokers Pokers...the irony is not lost on everyone

Falcnwng...you know I am a former WoT and would go back any day