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Offline VonMessa

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JG51 Mölders
« on: February 09, 2009, 10:35:50 PM »
Does anyone have more info on this a/c (besides the pic I have)

I believe it's 3./JG 51

109E-4



Thanks, in advance

(In the meantime, I may order the Osprey book)
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2009, 11:01:52 PM »
That skeletal hand is sweet!  If the plane is black, that would be one of my new favorite skins. :aok
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2009, 11:22:31 PM »
Grup 1, 3/JG51.  I dint think that is a 109E-4  If it was, it would have a yellow nose.  The pic that i posted is the E-1 in 1939 at Speyer, Germany.  The E-4 was used 1940, August, France. I will see if i can find anything more on the E-4.

« Last Edit: February 09, 2009, 11:38:14 PM by oakranger »
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2009, 12:18:05 AM »
The photo is of an E-3. Note the round edge on the rear canopy glass (behind the flip-open section)? Note the MG/FF guns in the wings.

Definitely not an E-1, as they had 7mm wing guns, no barrel protruding from leading edge, and no bulge under the wing to house the 20mm cannon drum.

I thought about skinning one like this a while back, never got around to it. Several 109Es never got made but I was semi-interested in doing.
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2009, 02:12:12 AM »
Quote from: oakranger on February 09, 2009, 11:22:31 PM
I dint think that is a 109E-4  If it was, it would have a yellow nose

Not all Bf-109E-4s had yellow noses...
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2009, 08:23:08 AM »
Von

From what i have been told of your photot is that is from 3./JG51, Staffel 3 of I./JG51. The skeleton hand is the marking of 3./JG51 while the shield is that of I./JG51.  Krusty is right on the E-3 Not E-1 or E-4. 
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2009, 08:49:33 AM »
Wasn't sure if it was a 3 or 4.

I'll ask now, is there a problem (community wise) with skinning OUR Emmil like this (as I'm sure  an E-3 is not in the works)?

I hope it's OK as I have finished it about 3/4 of the way.      :noid

Here is the clip from the Osprey book WITH the caption (I cut it off earlier).



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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2009, 08:54:35 AM »
Hope you r not asking me.  That up to AH.  I am still trying to learn how to do this stuff.  I guess it will be ok.  It is not like you are putting that skin on a B-24.
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2009, 09:01:34 AM »
But I am asking you  :D

And everyone else. 

I will also ask HTC, but as we have a few other minor aberrations (i.e. 190 A-4 paint jobs on OUR 190 A-5, and maybe a few others that I can't think of at this very moment) I don't see a big issue with it.
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2009, 10:31:04 AM »
Quote from: VonMessa on February 10, 2009, 09:01:34 AM
But I am asking you  :D

And everyone else. 

I will also ask HTC, but as we have a few other minor aberrations (i.e. 190 A-4 paint jobs on OUR 190 A-5, and maybe a few others that I can't think of at this very moment) I don't see a big issue with it.

190A6 actually not a 190A4.  I called and got permission before doing it.
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2009, 11:46:40 AM »
That was you?      :noid

Whose permission did you get?
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2009, 11:52:25 AM »
support@hitechcreations.com

Just email there and tell them whats going on. I don't see a big deal with a E3 skin on an E4 they're pretty much the same plane. Right know I have an A4 our an A5, a G10 on our K4 and a A9 on our A8.
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2009, 01:10:35 PM »
Quote from: Larry on February 10, 2009, 11:52:25 AM
A4 A5 G10 K4 A9 A8.

You sunk my battleship!!!!   :cry
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2009, 01:37:37 PM »
Quote from: VonMessa on February 10, 2009, 11:46:40 AM
That was you?      :noid

Whose permission did you get?




Good Grief Von, I was trying to get you and Motherland to do all three 190s in the picture I posted.  Look in your forum for the thread.  The other two were A7s.

I got permission, I refuse to implicate the hard working HTC employees by name.  :noid
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Re: JG51 Mölders
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2009, 01:39:06 PM »
Hey, it's done, I just keep forgetting to submit it.
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