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Offline BnZs

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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2009, 02:14:44 PM »
I agree, auto-puffy is ridiculous. It consistently targets the highest plane around to the exclusion of all other targets. For instance, clean fighter at 12K, Ju-88s lower with torps headed for the CV, which does the AI puffy target? The clean fighter of course.

I think AI puffy should be made ord-seeking.
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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2009, 02:34:38 PM »
stop milk running
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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2009, 02:42:06 PM »
stop milk running

It's not the milking that gets me buster.  It's the CV attacking the town I'm trying to protect.  (because the guy in the SB is incompetent)  Sure, you can keep yourself under 3k as much as possible...but against the horde of zekes and seafires, that can be tricky. 

Another annoying one is when strat targets are relatively close together.  You either fly through one or both fields of puffy ack, or have to go around for many miles.  Can't think of which map it was, but I experienced this a couple weeks ago on one of the island maps.  Couldn't come in from a different angle either, due to the airfield layout.  Worse yet, if you do go around the perimeter of puffy ack, in many cases fights wander about the map...which can put you right back into it.

Both issues could be eliminated by limiting puffy ack range, but accuracy I would also take. 

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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2009, 03:02:17 PM »
stop milk running

Auto puffy does not seem to trouble milk-runners or guys trying to destroy the CV all that much. Like I say, it seems to target the highest fighter in range, even if that plane is a clean fighter doing maneuvers, to the exclusion of say a lower, closer set of buffs flying straight in on their run.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2009, 03:12:49 PM by BnZs »
"Crikey, sir. I'm looking forward to today. Up diddly up, down diddly down, whoops, poop, twiddly dee - decent scrap with the fiendish Red Baron - bit of a jolly old crash landing behind enemy lines - capture, torture, escape, and then back home in time for tea and medals."

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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2009, 03:08:47 PM »
stop milk running
I guess this is what finally got under my skin.  Let me just say, it had nothing to do with milk running.  I was being extra patient in attacking 5 sets of Lanc's that were trying to flatten my airfield in a Dora.  Yes, I manage to down 9 before I head home due to low fuel.  I figured wth, I'll hotpad and get back up for the one more plane floating around in the sector to the west.  I noticed the dot on dar heading towards our airfield and head that direction.  It happens to be a set of 24's at approximately 16k.  I again take my time and be patient to set myself up for the attack.  I notice that he had reversed, lost his drones and was heading right at me.  Ok, no biggie.  This will obviously make it easier for me since fewer guns will be shooting back at me.  As he passes by and I reverse to engage......you guessed it!!  We're over his factory and TWO puffs into it say bye bye to the tail feathers.  I just found it very frustrating to put all the time and effort into having a very positive sortie, to only get it blown away without even having the chance to escape the stuff.

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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2009, 03:22:36 PM »
the only problem i have with the puffy ak (and its a major one) is the fact that it is almost impossible to destroy(or even get the ord off the plane) a CV with a heavy fighter but heavy bombers get through almost un touched.

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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2009, 03:39:14 PM »
Strat puffy is easy to kill, once under 3k you can kill all the guns and thats the end of puffy. But rest assured if some Billy Badass of Aces High catches you you will be labeled a milker, ho noes!!!!!  :O

Offline Motherland

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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2009, 03:41:38 PM »
Puffy ack is harmless unless you're doing something around the thing it's trying to defend beside attacking it.

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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2009, 03:45:41 PM »
Maybe some of us have no luck cause even my own auto puffy ack has hit me while attacking buffs or incoming Jabos.

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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2009, 03:48:53 PM »
Puffy ack is harmless unless you're doing something around the thing it's trying to defend beside attacking it.
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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2009, 05:31:27 PM »
Puffy ack is harmless unless you're doing something around the thing it's trying to defend beside attacking it.

I have to agree with Bnz...this is one of the most funny (and inaccurate) posts I have read in ages.  :rofl

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Offline Motherland

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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2009, 05:34:12 PM »
(and inaccurate)
Really? I can't recall a time I've been hit, let alone shot down, by auto-puffy ack while attacking a CV or strat. However... if I'm not attacking the strat, rather dogfighting around it or doing something else I tend to be hit all the time. :rolleyes:

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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2009, 05:44:01 PM »
Nobaddy: In case the thumbs up sign didn't make it clear, I was agreeing wholeheartedly with Motherland. The stuff is semi-useless EXCEPT for annoying furballers.
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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2009, 06:05:08 PM »
It's especially annoying in FSO when you're flying for half an hour, and as soon as you're 400 yards away from the first enemy you've seen all night...


*boom*
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Re: Puff Ack
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2009, 07:30:26 PM »
Really? I can't recall a time I've been hit, let alone shot down, by auto-puffy ack while attacking a CV or strat. However... if I'm not attacking the strat, rather dogfighting around it or doing something else I tend to be hit all the time. :rolleyes:

Not to be a bigger weenie than usual, the last time I asked HT about it....puffy was done using a randomizer. The ranges are too great (lag would be a major issue) for HT to program the puffy to with AI like the shorter range ack. Now, he may have recently changed it. But, in my 10 years of doing this.......it has never made damned bit of difference what you are doing. If you are in range, there is a random chance you will be hit.

Oh...btw...here is your  :rolleyes:...bakatcha :)

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