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Offline BlueJ1

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Aircraft crash in WNY
« on: February 12, 2009, 11:11:35 PM »
About 1030 tonight a continental airliner crashed into a home here just outside Buffalo. 1st major airline crash in Buffalo airport history. Unknown on any details on number of passengers or individuals in the home. Just made CNN news.

We're praying for the passengers, the people in the home, and their families.
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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 11:20:47 PM »
They'll be in my thoughts in prayers, I hope everyone comes out of it okay.

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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 11:28:48 PM »
48 souls on the plane. There are deaths. Unknown as of a number yet.
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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 11:45:07 PM »
fox list 49
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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2009, 11:51:09 PM »
fox list 49
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The major news also said 49 killed and then soon after the news casters said only a few were killed. They are giving mixed reports. All the local channels and the media brief that was just on our channels said they were unknown on the number of deaths yet but there were 48 individuals on the aircraft and 1 inside the home that took the brunt of the aircraft's crash.
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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2009, 12:30:44 AM »
NYS Police just stated at 0129 local that there were no survivors of the aircraft. So the total is at least 49 as of now. 
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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2009, 04:01:05 AM »
It was a Dash8 400 series.
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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2009, 05:17:27 AM »
CLARENCE, New York - A commuter plane crashed into a suburban Buffalo home and erupted in flames late Thursday, killing all 48 people aboard and one person on the ground, authorities said. Witnesses heard the twin turboprop aircraft sputtering before it went down in light snow and fog.

Flames silhouetted the shattered home after Continental Connection Flight 3407 plummeted into it around 10:20 p.m.

It was the first fatal crash of a commercial airliner in the United States since Aug. 27, 2006, when 49 people were killed after a Comair jetliner took off from a Lexington, Ky., runway that was too short.

"The whole sky was lit up orange," Bob Dworak, who lives less than a mile from the crash site, told The Associated Press. He said that residents of the neighborhood, about 10 miles from the Buffalo airport, were used to planes rumbling overhead, but he took note Thursday night when one sounded louder than usual and made some odd noises.

The 74-seat Q400 Bombardier aircraft was carrying 5,000 pounds of fuel and apparently exploded on impact, Erie County Executive Chris Collins said.

Firefighters got as close to the plane as they could, he said.

"They were shouting out to see if there were any survivors on the plane. Truly a very heroic effort, but there were no survivors," Collins said.

The aircraft, operated by Colgan Air, was flying from Newark Liberty International Airport in New Jersey to Buffalo Niagara International Airport in light snow, fog and 17 mph winds.

'There was a big bang'
"We were thinking it was just another plane," he said. "It kind of made some sputtering noises but they lower the landing gear over our house a lot so the noise from the planes a lot of time will change kind of drastically as they go over."

"All the sudden, there was a big bang, and the house shook," he said.

He drove over to take a look, and "all we were seeing was 50-to-100-foot flames and a pile of rubble on the ground. It looked like the house just got destroyed the instant it got hit," he said.

Amy Kudwa, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security in Washington said there was no indication terrorism was involved.

"All indications are that this was an air-safety event," she said.

Kudwa referred all other questions to the FAA.



ouston-based Continental Airlines issued a statement saying that preliminary information showed the plane carried 44 passengers and a crew of four.

"At this time, the full resources of Colgan Air's accident response team are being mobilized and will be devoted to cooperating with all authorities responding to the accident and to contacting family members and providing assistance to them," the statement said.


Continental extends its deepest sympathy to the family members and loved ones of those involved in this accident," said Larry Kellner, chairman and CEO of Continental Airlines, in a later statement. "Our thoughts and prayers are with all of the family members and loved ones of those involved in the flight 3407 tragedy."

Continental representatives were traveling to Buffalo to provide assistance to Colgan in its response to the accident. A family assistance center is being established in the area.

Clarence emergency control director Dave Bissonette said the crash also killed one person on the ground.

A mother and daughter who live on the street where the plane crashed were being treated at Millard Fillmore Suburban Hospital for what were described as non-life-threatening injuries, hospital spokesman Michael Hughes said. Two volunteer firefighters also were being treated for smoke inhalation and minor injuries.


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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2009, 07:00:11 AM »
Euronews is saying 50 people. May they rest in peace.

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2009, 07:23:31 AM »
What a shame.

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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2009, 08:01:24 AM »
Plane has known issue with landing gear strut failures, crash occurred right over the marker just after handoff. Seems a bit early to drop the gear but witness in article said that was common over his house. Delta MD88 was on approach and reporting light ice down to 3500. listening to ATC tape didnt sound like any stress in the cockpit. I'm wondering if the gear went on deployment...

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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2009, 08:19:28 AM »
Why would a gear failure ever cause any plane to dive in though?
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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2009, 08:22:53 AM »
drag and loss of speed under regular landing power, not noticed till too late...possibly.
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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2009, 08:34:29 AM »
I suppose, but the landing Gear will not slow you to stall speed very rapidly. They would have to be reeeeeeallly slow first, and you'd hear this loud voice saying "Stall" "Stall" "Stall"...


I feel terrible for the family's of the people on board. I just heard on the local news that one of the passengers' husband, had died in the Towers.  :(
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Re: Aircraft crash in WNY
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2009, 09:00:43 AM »
Why would a gear failure ever cause any plane to dive in though?

Only way would be if a piece hit tail surface...I'd actually be wondering if pilot was carrying just a bit extra speed figuring on an instrument approach in light ice better a few mph extra then trying to catch up on final...

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