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Offline Warspawn

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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #90 on: May 03, 2009, 08:33:10 PM »
Yep, 30mm sux.  :D   www.savanne.org/ah/190testmovie.wmv  (right click and save as)

Holy smokes...that B-17 took multiple 20mm/30mm hits and kept on going.  I wonder if his client even registered the damage.  Yours seemed to; there was lots of metal falling off, but nothing significant seemed to happen to the bomber being hit...
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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #91 on: May 03, 2009, 09:45:23 PM »
yah, the damage models seem to be a little off. . .

I consider 20mm to be the best gun type because the bullets seem to drop less and the damage seems to stick.  This post seems to confirm that. . .

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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #92 on: May 03, 2009, 09:51:33 PM »
Das Muppets links don't work with Firefox. :furious



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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #93 on: May 03, 2009, 09:52:12 PM »
I use firefox, but right click -> save as always works
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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #94 on: May 03, 2009, 09:53:23 PM »
I don't want to save the films, just open and view once.

It works fine with IE.



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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #95 on: May 03, 2009, 09:53:52 PM »
And I have no troubles
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Re: 30mm damage
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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #97 on: May 04, 2009, 12:52:19 AM »
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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #98 on: May 21, 2009, 03:26:05 AM »
Tater Dud in Me262.  Wasn't a very 'clean' hit but a hit is a hit with 30mm.

http://www.dasmuppets.com/public/Grizz/Tater Dud Me262.ahf

It'd be nice if HiTech could respond in this thread and let us know if a) This is normal that 30mm's are not intended to insure death or b) There is a minor bug with damage model or c) something else.

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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #99 on: May 21, 2009, 12:00:36 PM »
I thought I had read somewhere that the Germans would alternate ammo types in their cannon belts.  Something like 1 in 3 or 1 in 5 of the 30mm rounds were actually the devastating HE Mine rounds.  The others were AP, regular HE, tracer or other types.  It was said that the pilots would actually keep count of the rounds they fired so they would know what type of round was the next to fire, and cycle to the round they really needed if necessary. 

AH did not model the various different round types, but compromised by taking the average destructive capabilities of the types of shells used, so we end up in AH with a HE round that is a little less destructive than a HE Mine round.  This might explain why the damage is less than anticipated.  Granted, several 30mm hits of even very low explosive capabilities should do quite a bit of damage to an airplane, but maybe this can help frame the discussion a little.
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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #100 on: May 21, 2009, 01:46:59 PM »
Tracer, that would be for the MG 151.  I don't know anything about Mk 108 ammunition other than its famed lethality.
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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #101 on: May 21, 2009, 03:01:19 PM »
It would just be nice for some clarification from HiTech.  We have provided a lot of film in this thread showing fighters shrugging off Mk108 30mm tater rounds.

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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #102 on: May 21, 2009, 04:10:02 PM »
 :noid  :noid

I've been keeping an eye on this thread for awhile... I would like to see an awnser as well

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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #103 on: May 21, 2009, 04:50:22 PM »
Even if the answer is "We aren't sure but are looking into it" would be perfectly adequate imo.

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Re: 30mm damage
« Reply #104 on: May 21, 2009, 04:57:43 PM »
Tater Dud in Me262.  Wasn't a very 'clean' hit but a hit is a hit with 30mm.

http://www.dasmuppets.com/public/Grizz/Tater Dud Me262.ahf

It'd be nice if HiTech could respond in this thread and let us know if a) This is normal that 30mm's are not intended to insure death or b) There is a minor bug with damage model or c) something else.
That round hit right at the wing root, Id think that would take it clear off even with 1 20mm, I dont got film of it but I had a Yak eat a tator and got no damage, I thought lag had something to do with it
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