Why is the Ki-84 the only respected Japanese fighter?

[shreck]

The Ki84 is a P38 with training wheels.

 , Hmm lets see. If I wanted to race BMX bikes against someone and one of the bikes had training wheels, which one do you think would win ? Once learned the P38 especialy the PJ is better than the KI84---> hands down!!

KI84 is easier to get goin in, But when pitted against the thuroughbred planes with thuroughbred pilots, it falls quite short and is very limited.  LOL, equal pilots the 38 will OWN the HAYATE!!     

[shreck]

This, combined with the fact that a Ki-84 vs. a -1A is one of the best angle-fight matchups in the game, and I'm very happy every time I run into one.

HERE HERE!  Another very excellent match-up is KI84 vs P38J < can be very intense with the right drivers at the controls 

[Fianna]

  LOL, equal pilots the 38 will OWN the HAYATE!! 

 

[Krusty]

Ki-84s are one of my favorite rides in Aces High.

I don't think they are Uber, no do I think they're much feared/respected.

They don't have anywhere near the high speed handling to chase much down or dive on anything (or dive away from anything) so they are fairly limited in their ability to disengage.

While they are nimble, they are not "spit 16" quality. I love the guns but as said they fire very quickly and you can waste all your ammo on 2 enemy aircraft (although I've landed 7 with no reloads before, I tend to spray more nowadays). Overall it *is* a nice plane, but definitely not uber.

I actually liked it BEFORE it got the WEP and the higher boost ratings. It took a bit more skill to win fights for that short period of time when +200 was the highest boost you could reach.

[grizz441]

KI84 is easier to get goin in, But when pitted against the thuroughbred planes with thuroughbred pilots, it falls quite short and is very limited.  LOL, equal pilots the 38 will OWN the HAYATE!!     

 

Equal pilots, the Ki84 will OWN the P38, you got it backwards.  The ki84 is only limited in a dive, everywhere else it is the thoroughbred plane.  What you smokin and where can I get some?

[B4Buster]

I agree with Grizz...wth two equal pilots Ki-84 v P-38, the Ki84 will always win.

[Delirium]

LOL, equal pilots the 38 will OWN the HAYATE!! 

Shrek is one of the few that can perform his own proctology exam because his head is often up there anyway.

The P38 is a bit better than the Ki84 at higher speeds but at low speeds (in particular nose high), the Ki84 is a much better bird. That said, I'll fight a Ki84 in my P38 anytime because victory over a Ki84 is all the sweeter because of it.

[Krusty]

Ki84 has a nice low speed climb rate, IF you can get a P-38 to lose it's E. Problem is they can immelman 3x before losing steam, and usually spiral climb tight enough to get a kill shot on the Ki before the KI can dominate the 38.

If the Ki can live long enough until the 38 bleeds some E off, it will own the 38, but the 38 can kill it quite easily a number of times on the merge.

I'd say it's quite balanced between the two, with slight overall edge to the P-38 (no slight to the KI84, though)

[Alpha202]

Out of all the aircraft we have now, The Japanese Aircraft Set is my favorite  . It's Got one category for everything Aside from Rocket armament, and High speed.
 I respect them all, But the Ki-84 does stand out for me, I love Everything about it really...
The look, The sound, the skins, the cockpit, the performance, the Armament (Even If The ballistics are worse than most of the cannons, I never really Notice, or really care for that matter, I just like the whole thing to much To really see it as a downside)

Now, my love for the Ki-84 being said, I don't respect it OVER any other Japanese aircraft;
 
-I Respect the Zero's Turn rate, But its limited in the later arenas By the speed.
-Ki-61; I respect its Well-rounded Features, And I find Its pretty stable,
-I Respect the N1K2-J But I Fear it more-so Than the respect factor, my respect for it stays the same though.
They all have their own respectable Parts, But in all I don't respect one plane over another.

[grizz441]

If the Ki can live long enough until the 38 bleeds some E off, it will own the 38, but the 38 can kill it quite easily a number of times on the merge.

I'd say it's quite balanced between the two, with slight overall edge to the P-38 (no slight to the KI84, though)

This really isn't a subjective matter here.  The Ki84 owns the 38.  Surprised you don't know that for how long you've been flying.   

The 38 will have no easy shot on the ki84 early on like you say it will if the ki84 has any clue.

[shreck]

Shrek is one of the few that can perform his own proctology exam because his head is often up there anyway.

The P38 is a bit better than the Ki84 at higher speeds but at low speeds (in particular nose high), the Ki84 is a much better bird. That said, I'll fight a Ki84 in my P38 anytime because victory over a Ki84 is all the sweeter because of it.

LOL  like I said, 38 is superior. Whether in the 38 or the KI I find the 38 has best opportunity for the 1st couple of shots, I will agree once the fight degenerates to around 200 mph then the ki starts holding the cards, If the ki can get its flaps out, then it's about over. At a standard merge above 300 mph the P38 (with a GOOD) gunner
 at the controls will O W N the HAYATE!

Just keep tryin to stay in the--> (I'm superior cause I fly inferior plane) mode, so we can all bask in the light of your greatness.  Hero

[grizz441]

LOL  like I said, 38 is superior. Whether in the 38 or the KI I find the 38 has best opportunity for the 1st couple of shots, I will agree once the fight degenerates to around 200 mph then the ki starts holding the cards, If the ki can get its flaps out, then it's about over. At a standard merge above 300 mph the P38 (with a GOOD) gunner
 at the controls will O W N the HAYATE!

Just keep tryin to stay in the--> (I'm superior cause I fly inferior plane) mode, so we can all bask in the light of your greatness.  Hero

Hmmm....I think me and Del for all intensive purposes are close to equal in skill and could do 5-10 Ki84 vs 38 Duels and post the results.  Ki84 used to be my ride and we all know what Del flies.  Although I don't think it will be a very fun experiment for Del.  My guess is in 10 Duels, Ki84 should win 7 or 8 fights with the 38 squeaking out 2-3 based on how good of a shot he is on his one shot opportunity.

[shreck]

Hmmm....I think me and Del for all intensive purposes are close to equal in skill and could do 5-10 Ki84 vs 38 Duels and post the results.  Ki84 used to be my ride and we all know what Del flies.  Although I don't think it will be a very fun experiment for Del.  My guess is in 10 Duels, Ki84 should win 7 or 8 fights with the 38 squeaking out 2-3 based on how good of a shot he is on his one shot opportunity.

He's 3 times the 38 pilot you are, but it might be interesting! Fly 20 duals and each of you fly 10 in each plane!, Del did say he would be better in an uber single engine plane to me once 

[grizz441]

He's 3 times the 38 pilot you are, but it might be interesting! Fly 20 duals and each of you fly 10 in each plane!, Del did say he would be better in an uber single engine plane to me once 

Not that you've ever fought my 38 in a fair engagement (You don't duel, remember?), but obviously he is better in the P38.  Doesn't matter though, I'll do Ki84, he can do 38's.  We don't have to switch planes.  Your assumption is that he is a better pilot than me therefore if I beat him in the Ki84 it will further the presumption we have made that the Ki84 is a superior plane.  You should try dueling sometime, you might learn something and be able to apply it to the MA.  That is of course, if your ego can handle some failure in a fair fight for the sake of getting better.

[Masherbrum]

Hmmm....I think me and Del for all intensive purposes are close to equal in skill and could do 5-10 Ki84 vs 38 Duels and post the results.  Ki84 used to be my ride and we all know what Del flies.  Although I don't think it will be a very fun experiment for Del.  My guess is in 10 Duels, Ki84 should win 7 or 8 fights with the 38 squeaking out 2-3 based on how good of a shot he is on his one shot opportunity.

Never heard of you up until about 5-6 months ago.