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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2009, 11:33:02 AM »
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Ok - I can get on board with that.

I have always thought of the -14 as a K4 with training wheels.  You've got five times the ammo, infinitely easier weapons deployment, similar climb, better agility, better E retention, etc.

If the -14 were unperked, and the use remained low simply, as you stated, because the average player would think it a hunk of junk that couldnt "turn," I would have no problem unperking it and it might even make a serious run at replacing my 109 as the primary horse.

I'd take a -14 over a -16 any day, any alt, any situation.   :aok


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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2009, 12:59:52 PM »
Either unperk it or raise its boost settings to +21lbs boost.
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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2009, 01:46:53 PM »
Either unperk it or raise its boost settings to +21lbs boost.





   :O a 21lb map in the 14 would make it a real "Frankinstien"

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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2009, 02:17:33 PM »
Nah, just a Mk XIV on 150 octane fuel.  +21lbs boost was the wartime setting for that.
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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2009, 02:18:56 PM »
I shoot em down easy enough, regardless of perk value.   
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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2009, 02:09:24 PM »
Was the spit 14 down graded in some way I've seen claims boasting climb rates in the 5000ft/Minute from the deck, I have never got a spit 14 to climb at that rate.

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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2009, 02:12:09 PM »
The Aces High Spitfire MkXIV climbs at over 4900 FPM on the deck. It passes 5000 FPM at 3000 feet.

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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2009, 02:15:58 PM »
Why not just take up a different easy mode spit? Perk planes are for limp-wristed girly men.  :P
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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2009, 02:17:46 PM »
The Aces High Spitfire MkXIV climbs at over 4900 FPM on the deck. It passes 5000 FPM at 3000 feet.

with what fuel load out?
I still find that the Spit 16 is a more lethal plane at the altitudes that we fight at in AH.  
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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2009, 02:19:37 PM »
Whatever fuel loadout the AHII aircraft performance charts use. Most likely 25%.
And, the Spitfire MkXVI is undoubtedly more lethal at Aces High altitudes, and much easier to fly. The XIV is the hardest Spitfire to control IMO.

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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2009, 02:30:16 PM »
AH's charts use 100% fuel I think.  It is why the Mosquito's chart shows such a lower climbrate than it actually has in game.

I believe the Spit XIV's is out of date though.  It no longer breaks 5,000fpm.
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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2009, 02:32:49 PM »
With 25% fuel from the deck the best i could get is in the range of 3900-4000ft/Minute range and I never seen the 5000ft/min that is claimed....
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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2009, 02:50:59 PM »
Actual AHII Spit XIV climb rate chart:



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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2009, 02:58:14 PM »
Actual AHII Spit XIV climb rate chart:

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if you notice, that is not much better then the spit 16, so I say at the altitudes that we fly in the game the spit 16 is superior to the spit 14 IMO because of the added roll rates.
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Re: spit 14 changes
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2009, 05:43:44 PM »
I also feel that a reduced WEP recharge time would make the spit14 a more competitive perked aircraft, a 15 minute recharge time is quite a handicap.  As far as i'm aware there is no historical reason why the spits have a longer WEP recharge time.

There isn't.

But there was a directive that said if WEP was used for more than 10 mins "continuously" the pilot was supposed to inform the 'higher' ups.
This was to allow extra checks to be carried out.
As far as I am aware no problems were ever found by exceeding the recommended 10 mins, and the longest documented use of WEP was in excess of 30 mins with no damage to the engine. Granted this was with a Merlin.

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