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Offline Lusche

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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2009, 07:41:25 AM »
Vudak, 

HTC mentioned they are thinking of ways bringing H2H back in form of player controlled arenas hosted on the server. If that ever happens, I think it would be exactly the thing you are looking for. Your room, your setup and most important: Your rules :)
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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2009, 07:47:19 AM »
The DA arena is just a canary in a coal mine with regard to the mind set of the player base. You'll see some players proactively trying to get better and some squads/groups using it for training/mini furballs as well as individual duels. I could care less what folks do at "furball lake", its the guys who interrupt or pick elsewhere that are a cause for concern. I just wish the SBD, A-20 etc were enabled at the fighter bases and FB lake....

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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2009, 09:19:27 AM »
Drives me crazy when my squad is practicing off in one of the actual dueling areas, and some guy rolls from the base and completely ignores our warnings that it's squad practice and to stay out.
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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2009, 10:37:52 AM »
I dont see why people want to shut down the DA or change it in anyway. I fly in the DA most of the time now. Reason: the MA bores me. Same as alot of the guys in the DA. True there are tards, dweebs, Hoers and the all mighty tempest guys, but in general, FB lake is fun. It is what it is. Theres several 1v1 fields to dual. And thats where I (and most people) look for 1v1s. And in the last couple of weeks theres been a noticeable change in lake. There are good fights to be had, not just picks and hos or boats n hoes for that matter. And most of the whining comes from people that arent normally in furball lake. If you dont like FB lake, dont go there, I dont like the MA so I dont go there much. My opinion the MA where the problem is with gameplay and all around shenanigans, fix that. I dont see why disabling kill messages helps anything but some of the "elitist" egos. I agree with ords needing disabled. Or atleast somewhat to keep the bombers from getting to other fields. But otherwise, its fine the way it is. We have fun, we do what we want, we dont effect other arenas, we dont get perks, or rank ( for all you guys that dont care about score, but are obsessed with others score). When I want to have fun I go to the DA, When I want realism I have FSO. I have very little reason to go the MA, same ol same ol.Try this, come over to FB lake, fly for a while, and stop whining. Geeze. Flame away boys, theres another opinion out there, get the rope.

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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2009, 11:04:38 AM »
Texas,

If you were at KoTH saturday night, you'd understand why I'd like to have an easier way to get a group of guys together on a private field and fight each other, without having to split into two different countries and slowly rotate who's on what country to ensure everyone fights everyone.

Grizz won the event in three rounds, and afterward AKDogg enabled all planes and just let us play for awhile.  We basically used the old "check 6" method for calling a fight with one another.  I got to fight pretty much everyone, and had a blast.

We used to be able to do that every night in the DA when killshooter was off.  To an extent, we still can, but again, it's nowhere near as simple, as everyone would have to switch teams at least once, and keep track of who's on what team, etc.  It's just more complicated than it used to be or needs to be.  Especially considering the changes don't actually prevent griefers from showing up at private fights now, either.

Again though, I have no problem with furball lake as it currently stands and don't want to disrupt YOUR idea of fun...  I just want more options to enable me to have MINE.

Hopefully, the subscriber-based H2H rooms Lusche mentioned will work for me in that respect, but there's many things to be seen in that regard, and I'll hold my comments until the first draft is up and running.
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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2009, 12:25:26 PM »
I dont see why people want to shut down the DA or change it in anyway. I fly in the DA most of the time now. Reason: the MA bores me. Same as alot of the guys in the DA. True there are tards, dweebs, Hoers and the all mighty tempest guys, but in general, FB lake is fun. It is what it is. Theres several 1v1 fields to dual. And thats where I (and most people) look for 1v1s. And in the last couple of weeks theres been a noticeable change in lake. There are good fights to be had, not just picks and hos or boats n hoes for that matter. And most of the whining comes from people that arent normally in furball lake. If you dont like FB lake, dont go there, I dont like the MA so I dont go there much. My opinion the MA where the problem is with gameplay and all around shenanigans, fix that. I dont see why disabling kill messages helps anything but some of the "elitist" egos. I agree with ords needing disabled. Or atleast somewhat to keep the bombers from getting to other fields. But otherwise, its fine the way it is. We have fun, we do what we want, we dont effect other arenas, we dont get perks, or rank ( for all you guys that dont care about score, but are obsessed with others score). When I want to have fun I go to the DA, When I want realism I have FSO. I have very little reason to go the MA, same ol same ol.Try this, come over to FB lake, fly for a while, and stop whining. Geeze. Flame away boys, theres another opinion out there, get the rope.




You may not be one to cause trouble, but its the few that do that are going to get everyones fun spoiled. This has the same ear marks of the H2H problem. Most people just trying to use it for what its meant to be used as and a few others going out of their way to interfere. If those "few" are not controlled, the fun will disappear for everyone.

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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2009, 01:33:30 PM »
well we try to kill those few first. and often. As for the private arenas like the H2H used to be, Im all for that, that would be great. I never did the H2H and honestly have only been goin to the DA for a couple of months. i started AH in 2004. Id take my squad to H2H in a heartbeat. Our squad in the DA is the same as in the MA and FSO. Once we get the plane assignments in FSO we go to a separate field and ring em out. Havent had a prob with interferance yet, but Im sure it will happen. i hate ruiners, and they are in very arena, best to shoot em down, call em out, deal with them. New guys for the most part get it and want to fit in, most Squeakers notsomuch.

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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2009, 06:49:27 PM »
I don't think squads should be disabled because then you can't cross reference your squaddies with the .SR command through different arenas.  Get rid of Kill Messages on lands though.  I don't know who is worse, the guy landing the kills in the DA or the guy WTGing him in the DA... :huh
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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2009, 07:08:22 PM »
so, you're implying that in the DA, you ONLY duel? And move the Furballing Area to it's own Arena?
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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2009, 07:26:49 PM »
Most of the people who are a pain in the backside in the DA need lots of guns to even stand a chance of killing you. 90% of the chogs and tempests i see cant shoot to save their life...which is ironic because thats exactly what they need to do in order to live more than a few minutes out there. The better planes are the great equaliser that enables even the casual gamer to enjoy aceshigh, that is great..

..a little hijack from me. Its really annoys me that you cannot fly the A20 from any of the dueling fields. I love to fight snaphook my squaddie and its is a real PITA that we cannot fight in A20s at all. This situation came about due to idiots who had to go bombing in the DA. Griefers have cost us the ability to duel a plane we want to. What else are we going to limit for this impossible Dueling Arena Utopia?

The DA is perfect, it has opposing bases for people to fight 1 on 1 from and a furball arena to be a dweeb in.

The only problem is the limitations (again, what about no 262 fights?) thanks to the retarded actions of a few people.

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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2009, 07:29:33 PM »
I think removing kill messages would go a long way towards reforming furball lake.

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Re: Make the DA a Dueling Arena
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2009, 12:20:59 AM »
Well see here, it truly depends on the person and plane landing the kills. If he/she/it landed the kills in a N1k, 4-hog/C-hog, Temp, SPixteen, Frank, or 190 A8, you can bet that they didn't earn their kills.

guilty of flying a Chog and landing kills. But I earn them....most of them. Id rather be in the 1A but when theres Tempests all over the place, quick cannon kills make me tingle. Still not all that sure why it matters who lands what.
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